How sad for them. I’m sure the kids who are now not getting their aids treatment because DOGE employees cancelled USAID didn’t feel abandoned.
Doge Cuts to USAid Blamed for 300,000 Deaths — Most of Them Children
it’s worse than that
Last I saw the number was 600k.
yeah, but they were probably brown, so it’s fine /s
“I knew this was wrong and only did it because I thought I had fascist immunity”
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It would be nice if they were prosecuted, as one of their DOGE members leaked the Social Security numbers in plaintext for every malicious actor to take advantage of. All because they were a stupid, brash fool that thought they could do something and not get caught. 🙄🤬
I’m sure they’ll get picked up by The Heritage Foundation or some other Right Wing org and protected. Can’t have the spineless lackeys spilling the beans.
It’s fine, Musk can find a new batch of kinda smart but not really college dropouts with delusions of impressing a narcissistic rich guy and a history of starting arguments with “well, actually, white men are the most oppressed social group”. They seem to be cloning them at industrial scale these days.
Cloning them? Apparently all it takes is feeding 14 yo white boys a steady drip of regular pop culture augmented with timed bursts of manosphere podcasts (formerly YouTube rabbit holes).
No use being sexist/racist about it. That shit works on everybody.
I do feel like these idiots should be thrown under the bus, and punished to the full extent of the law. I really do hope they’re held accountable for their wanton destruction.
That said, I can imagine some college graduates going along with something like this simply because they don’t have the life experience to really understand the legal, political, and social ramifications of what they’re doing.
I’d be willing to be lenient-ish with them if they can provide evidence and testimony that results in the successful prosecution of those above them. I’d be willing to continue to be lenient-ish as long as we keep getting info on a bigger criminal.
Exactly they can probably provide you with legitimate electronic transcripts of the people at the top that orchestrated everything.
Is there like, an actual list of shit these DOGE dumbasses did?
Not that I’m questioning that they did shit, but so far, being outside of the US, all I got was general accusations without any proof. I’d love to see the list of actual damage done, with receipts and all, just so it’s quantifiable.
There’s probably some commentary, but there’s no list of criminal charges.
18USC115 has some good starting points
Musk had not been just their visionary leader. For them, he was their protector: the man who had a direct line to Trump, who they believed could pick up the phone and secure a presidential pardon if the worst came.
Now, that seems not to be a quote from somebody involved, but a quote from Politico, but with that in mind…
What kind of person does something with the expectation that they might need a pardon? Only people who think they might be committing a crime. You know, criminals.
And I would argue that if they were committing crimes with the expectation that Musk would secure them pardons from Trump, that is describing a conspiracy that includes Musk himself. (As well as Trump, but it wouldn’t be possible to charge him with that, given a recent Supreme Court ruling.)
If I was the next president, I’d have everybody from DOGE on federal charges as soon as was feasible, including Musk… Although given Trump’s health, the next president will likely be Vance. I wonder what the odds makers put on Vance being the next president.
Ah, but they’ve already claimed that Musk wasn’t part of DOGE and he’ll claim that the employees were making assumptions and he never said such a thing. And he’d probably be correct; Musk is much better than Trump at weasel wording things.
Doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a meticulous investigation though.
I don’t doubt that Musk is better than Trump at any sort of intellectual pursuit, but that’s only because Trump is that much of a dumbass. I mean, Musk seems to be able to read at a reasonably adult level.
Musk frequently says and does quite stupid things that involve him or his companies in legal peril. He’s famous for over-promising and under-delivering, and not via weasel words, but being specific. I think he gets away with it more from having good lawyers than from him acting any more intelligently than the average person.
Like Mueller or Garland? 😟
a senior DOGE figure named Donald Park tried to reassure his colleagues that they were still ‘brothers in arms’ and that Musk would continue to protect them.That led to another protesting and advising, “Guys, seriously get your own lawyer if you need it. Elon’s great, but you need to watch your own back.”
“Guys have you tried being a rich billionaire who can buy your own way out of trouble? Now get back to work.”
I’ve never feared criminal prosecution after doing work, maybe because I’ve never done anything illegal? Why is it that some people (often wealthy) think that laws won’t apply to them? Especially people around Trump when he has had demonstrated history of throwing so many people under the wheels in the past?
I know a few trans librarian acquaintances who got the fuck out of Florida because the legal environment was getting too spicy. So yes, generally agree that if you fear criminal prosecution for doing your job something is wrong. In the trans librarian case, it’s Florida. In Doge’s case it was their behavior.
Not sure where I’m going with this, thinking on which set of folk feared repercussions enough to change something (environment or behavior)
And who’s going to prosecute them? The Democrats? Don’t make me laugh. As was the case in the last Democrat term, they’ll just nurse their thumbs with their assholes for years, then maybe half-ass an attempt at getting some low-hanging fruit when the public voices become too loud to ignore, and achieve a whole lot of nothing.
I truly hope I’m wrong about this.
I hope they live in fear for the rest of their miserable lives.
How about the department heads that let it happen? Doge went into systems unchallenged.
Unchallenged AND illegal.
These mfers went into offices, flashes a DOGE badge and stole data. They need to be locked up
Lol I remember the countless posts on how these guys would end up being the fall guys for all of it. Least surprising twist of the year.
In fascism literally everyone is a future fall guy.
Definitely not the kind of thing you’d have to worry about if you worked for a real government agency. You might get laid off or fired, but as long as you’re doing your job, you won’t be prosecuted for it.
However, if your “job” involves doing something illegal, that might require a pardon…maybe you should think twice about volunteering for that position.
