• Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    The updated curriculum, approved by the Ministry of Education, requires half of the weekly classes within the course “Fundamentals of the Security and Defense of the Homeland” to be devoted to basic military training,

    So half of a one subject, not half of all school classes.

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        In my experience the course is the thing you show up to class for. So, it’s more like if you’re taking the course “Fundamentals of the Security and Defense of the Homeland” for the semester, and half your classes per week will be military training. But who knows how those dastardly russkies do things! allegedly.

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      I had to teach a ROTC class for a day as a guest presenter one time. I told them that some day they may need use the math I taught them to kill someone so they better learn it good. They looked horried. I was horrified, like, child soldiers what the fuck do you think the army does? Their regular army teacher loved it though. He requested me back.

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        I think Army propaganda really does paint a weird distorted world in which the US military is always responding to domestic natural disasters, buildings bridges, or other stuff that they would do in a nation not dominated by a capitalist demiurge. So yeah I think it’s easy to trick kids with under developed brains into thinking they’re gonna be helping people and then once they hit 18 and sign the dotted line be like “nah fucker you gonna commit war crimes welcome to imperialism kiddo”.

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    the new version escalates this training for children as young as 13.

    So they’ll be 18 in 2030, which just happens to be the same date that the US has been beating the drum about a war with China for years and year now.

    I don’t think this is about Ukraine. Russia is preparing for ww3.

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    let me guess there sources are anonymous, and from Kyivpost and united24media totally neutral outlets

    edit: actually nope from ‘Ukrainian National News’ surely non biased

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    So I’m guessing this means high school education in the US, and probably Europe, will start to feature more and more military training, and the justification will just be “Russia does it” stated without any actual evidence.

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      Half of high school devoted to military would be amazing. The concern is the brainwashing being increased ten fold, especially now with the evolved panopticon but if leftists had proper military training from 2000 to 2015, I would actually have hope.

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        It wouldn’t be actual training in tactics and combat though, it’d be more boot camp style “breaking your spirit” so children are more compliant and easier to mold into soldiers who never question orders or authority.

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    Didn’t they do this in the Soviet days? I’m pretty positive there was like some kind of program that had former military officers go into secondary schools and teach exactly this.

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        jrotc is just learning how to dress up and tie ties, how to walk in a group, maybe some exercise once in a while, and letting kids be in charge of other kids with hierarchies and positions of pseudo-power so the teacher/military dudes don’t have to manage all the kids all the time. Its basically a daycare and recruiting center for high school kids

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          Sure, but I’d bet at some point or another a bunch of them get to take a field trip to a local base where they get to learn to shoot guns or some shit. The bases I lived nearby growing up always had some sort of open house type thing a few times a year where they had the jrotc kids helping out with that kind of stuff.

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            Now this is gonna be purely experience and observation talking and not any sort of data talking, but up here I’ve only seen like a few high school jrotcs teach air rifle shooting in connection to the local school air rifle competition teams. I’ve also heard that only the air force and army jrotcs up here hold summer camps at the military installation here where the most military-thjng they do is sleep in barracks, eat at a DFAC, go through the local obstacle courses, and generally herd children around trying to get them to burn energy while getting a light taste of basic military life.

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      Yes, someone has already written briefly about it so I’ll just share some related historical images. I thought you might be interested to see.

      Typically starting in 9th grade, twice a week a retired soldier (vojenrúk) would hold class on everything from proper military drill and courtesy to chemical/biological warfare.

      Source

      Not really related, but I thought I’d mention Soviet Union was actually quite complex and multi-faceted, but a lot of the history is unfortunately lost to the either. Like the personal anecdotes of my family, although might be interesting, do not have any significant historical weight :/

      I very much doubt the archive has survived of any formal orders given that might back up my stories. Even if it existed, it’s probably burned to ashes at this point.

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    Casual reminder that my high school campus was lousy with military officials from all branches. Few societies rival the martiality of the US.

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    Russia Is Teaching Its Children to Fight the Wars of the Future - Bloomberg - Archive.is

    I mean this is pretty bad. Obviously US / Europe’s own fault for deciding to have this war in 2008. But if we keep going along this path, Russia is continuing to prepare for war.

    But I honestly don’t know what could ever convince the warmongers to desist from this course. If Ukraine starts to seriously collapse in the winter we’ll see a failed state and even more refugees. But maybe Russia never takes the rest of Ukraine. Maybe there will never be a ceasefire or peace agreement and it will continue to simmer like that, constantly bleeding Europe and slowly escalating. Or they do take Ukraine and we’ll get a Nato country then attack Ukraine or some shit. Like the western media simply never admits that the war is lost and it’s this eternal 1984 narrative.

    Europe is just sleepwalking into WWIII at this point.

    PS from here:

    External governance in Kyiv under the auspices of the UN could pave the way for a diplomatic settlement. This was stated on August 29 in an interview with RIA Novosti by Mikhail Galuzin, Deputy Foreign Minister.

    I guess that is the smart way to shove the responsibility back to the “international” community. The other post war strategy I’d enact if I was Russia is to foment two different kinds of “stab in the back” myths to redirect Ukrainian grief and anger towards Europe and the US. 1 for not providing enough military aid when they asked for it or stopping too early or 2 for the US instigating the Nato membership provocation in the first place.