I just overheard a coworker saying “Oh, I would never try that in my life!”, in a discussion of food. (This was about consuming a steak cooked less than medium well). It made me wonder what life is like for those who refuse to try new food, especially those who refuse to try mundane things like fried shrimp.

Why limit yourself? It seems like such a closed-minded way to view food. Help me understand?

EDIT:

I wasn’t going to do this, but I’m tired of replying to people and will post this at the top.

The person that prompted this question is a close-minded piece of crap. He has no sensory issues, just a shitty mindset, with ignorance and prejudice on display with no shame. I have the pleasure of hearing his annoying shit every night.

The knee-jerk reactions I have received from people in this post have had me examine my own knee-jerk reactions, attributing malice to that which may be misunderstanding rather than bigotry or hatred. This is what I am taking away from this post. That even I should take a chill pill every now and again; it’s not all a tragedy.

I will not delete it, because there are some very thoughtful replies that explain different viewpoints, that people took time to type out. It would be disrespectful to them to do that.

Call me what you like. Don’t care. I will not be replying to any other replies.

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    Autism.

    Textures & temperatures are problematic. I stay with what I know so minimise the chance of freaking out.

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      Autistic and the total opposite here for home cooking. The (allegedly greater) magnitude of those flavors and textures makes trying new things so enjoyable that it’s worth the risk.

      That said, I used to be similar, having a rotation of a few select meals; I’d get “hooked” on a specific food for an unreasonably long time. But nowadays, I get the benefits of both.

      I make whatever at home because I know exactly what’s going into it and roughly how it’ll taste, and I’m naturally limited to a few vegan options at restaurants so I can live the dream of having one or two favorites I get every time. It’s a win–win.

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        On the spectrum myself and I am a foodie with an insatiable apetite for new and interesting. My general rule is if it was good enough for them, it’s good enough for me. I don’t always like everything, but I’ll try anything.

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      I agree Autism too and I always stick with the things I know. Cannot be dealing with unfamiliar textures.

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      Agree, I’m not a picky eater (but somewhat autistic) and eat basically anything, but there is some texture I can’t, like avocado or liver, I can literally puke.

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      Part of growing up is realising what those emotions mean & adapting, otherwise you will have no growth.

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      You absolutely can choose your emotions. It’s sort of terrifying that people seem to agree with this statement.

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          You can choose to focus on the positive aspects of their life and your relationship, yes. That’s not exactly the same as not grieving but it isn’t allowing your emotions to drive your actions either.

          Either way, that’s quite a bit different than taking a bite of food you don’t like, isn’t it?

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            You basically just paraphrased that you can’t control your emotions, but how you react to them, proving the previous guys point.

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      Uh, yes, in fact thats one of the truly few things in life that you have absolute choice and power over, is your emotions and how you react to things. Most people learn emotional regulation as children.

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        That’s arguable. Setting aside determinism or whatever, what it appears we can choose is our actions (in response to our emotions). Not the emotions themselves. I’m not sure I could any more choose to be happy if a beloved pet died than I can choose what my eyes see when I look a particular direction. I might be able to filter those inputs through my own perceptions moments after the experience but that initial reaction is instantaneous and, as far as I can tell, uncontrolled.

        Put another way: if some drunk shitbag, flying down the street, runs over my cat - my initial response is going to be some combination of horror, rage and sorrow all wrapped up in a sense of panic. Whatever I choose to tell myself after the fact, in an attempt to alter that state, will be reliant on me convincing myself of it before (or rather if) my emotional state can then change. Maybe I say to myself “at least Mittens was spared the pain of old age, organ failure and a slow death” and that silver lining is enough to curb the rage and reduce the sadness. Maybe it’s not. Either way it’s post hoc to the initial, visceral reaction.

        Another example might be what’s humorous to you. Something “dark” or morbid might leave you in a laughing fit where it would leave others aghast. I don’t think either of us can choose that. I certainly can’t choose to find Seinfeld funny.

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    Some foods taste like litteral dirt. It’s a genetic quirk some people have. Beets, carrots, mushrooms, grapes, all taste like mud. I can’t taste the “sweetness” at all. Nuts also have a chalky flavor, but I couldn’t tell you why (strangely seeds, legumes, and beans are tasty af). Parsley tastes like soap. Licorice tastes like old socks. People like to attribute pickiness to the foods I don’t like, but why should I force myself to eat dirt and soap? That doesn’t stop me trying new things. Eel is delicious. Shrimp heads are meh. Dirty rice is great. Conch is fantastic. Lobster is bleh. Ostrich is gamey. Gator is good. Fennel heads fiddleheads are amazing. I’m always trying new foods, but when I turn my nose up at “normal” food with carrots, or nuts, or mushrooms I’m called “picky” because people are quick to throw out that word.

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      I want to know more, like how did you get over PNC and what does it taste like? Does diet really change the flavour etc etc…

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            Oh. Well, first ask yourself do you actually want to do it? If yes, just do it. If no, maybe reevaluate. It seems intimidating at first but just dip your tongue in it. It probably won’t taste great but that’s not why anyone does it. I did it maybe three times before I became a pro at consuming one’s own nut. The first times it was like “wow, this sucks”, afterwards it was more like " wow, this would be better if I had a loving goth mommy domme to share the moment with." It’s not gay despite what shitheads will tell you, unless you want it to be. The world is your oyster, i’m just living in it. As for diet, no idea. Mine has always tasted like battery acid. In regards to PNC, just do it and than you can jerk off thinking about it later.

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    Sounds like you’re lucky enough to not have any sensory problems - you probably don’t get overwhelmed by textures, flavours or smells. Not everyone is like that. You also don’t seem to have any particular cultural or ethical concerns about your food choices. My family is vegan and very neurodivergent; none of us would ever consider steak or shrimp, for ethical reasons, and most of us have texture and flavour sensitivities that mean that certain foods are off limits for some of us. We generally buy within those parameters, but some of us really like things others really hate, so cooking can be a nightmare. In many cases, it’s the texture of food that causes this - often borderline textures going from firm to soft, too granular, “wrong” like soft when should be crunchy etc.

    But I bet you have some things you wouldn’t try, based on cultural or texture preferences, which some people love. What about…

    • Soft biscuits (cookies) - baked crunchy, but have gone damp and soft?
    • Dry, stale bread - baked soft, but just dried out and stale?
    • Witchetty grubs - moth larvae from Australia?
    • Dog meat, eaten in some Asian countries?
    • Fermented shark meat, stinky and rank, eaten in some Nordic states?
    • Reindeer poo - traditional Finnish cuisine sometimes uses it?
    • Natto - stringy, slimy soya beans fermented by a bacteria, very strong flavour, popular in Asia, especially Japan?
    • Tempeh - soya beans colonised by a particular edible mould fungus, eaten widely in Asia?
    • Tofu - bean curd in various textures, but very little flavour, eaten widely by vegans and in Asia?
    • Furry tofu - tofu colonised by another edible mould fungus, eaten widely in Asia?
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    I wouldn’t call myself a “picky” eater per se, but my peanut/tree nut allergy makes me apprehensive to try new food. Especially if there aren’t clear labels for things like peanut oil and cross contamination.

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      When offered a new food, you can take it or not.

      Since you seem to identify as one who would CHOOSE not to eat it, explaining why you MAKE THAT CHOICE is probably more what they were looking for, as opposed to cryptic sarcasm that leaves us with more questions than answers.

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        Like I said, I don’t choose to be this way. I do wish I could try more things but most foods make me gag before they’re anywhere near my mouth.

        You could choose to eat poop, but you would never because that’s disgusting, so would you really call that a “choice”?

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          Absolutely. And if someone asked why I choose not to eat poop, I would tell them because it’s highly unsanitary and carries diseases. Besides, the flavor is not enjoyable and it provides little to no nutritional value, so there really is no reason to eat it.

          Your turn.

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            That is what you would say if pressed for a reason, but surely it’s secondary to your gut reaction of “ew”. Or perhaps your instinctual knowledge that it’s a bad idea to eat poop causes the gut reaction, I don’t know.

            Yeah, if you forced me at gunpoint I’d (probably — I’m honestly not sure) eat whatever you put in front of me, but I normally don’t because the thought, and the sensory impression, are deeply viscerally unpleasant to me. I wish they weren’t, but I very rarely find myself able to overpower this reaction, and only with foods that doesn’t trigger it as strongly. I suppose next you’ll call me weak-willed.

            Why are you so intent on me, and only me, justifying myself, because I was a bit snippy to OP or what? I’m disengaging now.

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    I will actually skip a meal, or leave an event to buy my own food, instead of eating food that I don’t like.

    When the alternative is actually and literally fighting against revulsion and gag reflex and nausea, or getting my hands and face dirty with food that can’t be eaten cleanly, why would I subject myself to that if I’m not literally starving?

    Best example I can think of is a work trip last year for which I marked myself “vegan” instead of “vegetarian” for meal restrictions. One outing had a bunch of pizzas ordered. The only meatless pizza had mushrooms. I hate mushrooms on pizza and the act of picking ingredients off of pizza is so degrading and so disgusting, not to mention they still leave their tastes behind anyways, so I just went out of pocket and got food somewhere else after I left.

    Always been like this. Arguably I’ve put a ton of effort into trying new foods and I’ve been lucky to have traveled to a lot of foreign countries - I’ve had live grilled abalone (which I regret every part of), century eggs (tasty as fuck, would eat again), have developed a decent spice tolerance too (not easy growing up in the midwest USA :P). But some stuff still just is forever gross to me.

    Also, fuck sandwiches and burgers that fall apart in your hands or have things fall or slide out or liquids or sauces drip stuff while you bite down. I am so repulsed and irritated by this that I feel actual rage.

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    If the texture/flavor triggers my gag reflex and I can’t physically swallow, the question is not “why am I limiting myself?” but rather, “why would I attempt to abuse myself?”

    Trying new food can be risky, its not cheap and if you cant eat it you just wasted your money and the food. Food also takes time to prepare which you may not have the time to make or order something else which then can snowball into larger issues. Not to mention the social pressure/judgment to finish a meal you wish you could force down your throat and getting accused of being dramatic and wasteful.

    I like to try new foods here and there but I need to be able to get a small portion to avoid waste and know theres a back up I can eat to avoid skipping a meal altogether. It also needs to be with a crowd that I feel safe enough with not to get shat on if I cant eat it.

    That being said I can only imagine making a blanket statement that I’d never try something if I already know it’s very similar to something else that I can’t eat.

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    Why limit yourself? It seems like such a closed-minded way to view food. Help me understand?

    I don’t think there’s much of a choice to it. When my brain rejects a food (usually based only on smell) there literally isn’t anything I can do about it. Even if I do push through and take a bite, it will always taste horrible.

    My own picky eating is also in large part fuelled by some sort of authorexia tbh. This definitely isn’t the norm for picky eaters though. It’s just when I was a kid I was slightly averse to fish but my parents snuck some into my food anyways. When I realized I had a meltdown so large that I still can’t even eat anything that even remotely smells like fish. Not even seaweed or vegan fish replacements. But it’s even more that I can’t allow anyone to have any control over what I eat. So I’m pretty particular about enforcing that I don’t want olives, or mayonnaise, or other mundane stuff just to make sure I actually have a say in what I eat.

    Going vegan was actually really awesome for that reason. I get constant assurance that my food choices are respected, and it’s a ruleset that people are more willing to respect.

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        Eh, probably. I only ever got tested for adhd but I’ve heard that comorbidity is high and there’s some sort of genetic factor that makes both adhd and autism pretty heritable. Both my siblings are diagnosed AuDHD.

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          Its just your comment reminded me of my cousin, also I don’t give a fuck if people are picky eaters anyway. I have misophonia so id rather not ne around loud eaters 😅

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    I’m not interested in going out of my way to try new food cause I just view eating as something I have to do to survive, not something I enjoy doing. My anxiety prevents me from outright refusing food from someone, but often if it’s one of the many things I know I don’t like I’ll just say I’m full and deal with it. I most likely ate enough the rest of the day to survive till tomorrow anyway.

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    Growing up, my family has always accused me of being a picky eater, and it comes up every time we’re eating together. Every family get-together, it’s always a big deal whether I’m going to eat the prepared meal or not. My sister especially likes to offer to make a separate meal just for me because I’m “sooo picky!”

    I can’t get it through their skulls that I’m less of a picky eater than they are - I’m just vocal about the very few specific foods I decided I don’t like. Which happens to be in a lot of recipes my extended family makes.

    I spent 20 years traveling the world with the US military and I made it a point to try local cuisine everywhere I went. I became a bit of a foodie, and some of my favorite foods are from foreign countries. Every time family members came to visit me in other countries, I’d spend half of their visit just introducing them to amazing cuisine in the local area.

    We’d eat out practically every day to give them a taste of the local culture. And surprisingly, most of them didn’t care for it. They wanted their “American food” instead. They weren’t very adventurous when it came to trying new things. There’s nothing worse than going to a ramen shop in Japan or a döner shop in Germany and having your family ask if we can go find a McDonald’s instead.

    But sure, I’m a picky eater because I’ve hated squash since I was a child, and that’s apparently a staple of every family banquet.

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      I love squash. Just some yellow summer squash fried up with a little butter, a pinch of salt, and some fresh cracked pepper 👨‍🍳🤌🫴. I could live on that shit. Sounds like your family has bad taste all around and they were fucking it up. But since you like most food, and mostly just not their food, and they are asking for McDonald’s in fucking Germany, tells me they told you that you’re picky cause you didn’t think a salad should include gummy bears and mayonnaise. It really doesn’t sound like you’re picky.

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      Local cuisine… takes them to the fast food variants… now if you said introducing them to true local food and they didnt want it…

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    I’m a picky eater, but I will try things and do like a lot of different foods, but once I try something and don’t like it, it gets added to the “nah” list, and there’s a bunch on that list and some is “normal” stuff. For example, fuck green bell peppers, red bell gang all day.

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    I’m a picky eater, but it’s mostly because of texture-related issues. (However, I am also picky about flavors.) Wrong textures make me want to gag. I don’t actually gag, because I’ve learned to suppress it.

    I have no problem trying new things. I just often immediately hate the new things. However, I will try it again after enough time had passed. Sometimes, it will be prepared differently enough to be appetizing. Other times, I will start to like a flavor that I once hated. I have never had my texture preferences change.

    Which texture do I hate? I call it the “wrong kind of mushy.” It’s hard to explain, because I do like some mushy foods. Mashed, baked, or boiled potatoes? Almost always gag inducing. Oatmeal? Wonderful. Hiding small amount of wrong mushy foods among foods with a better texture sometimes helps, but only if I like the flavor despite the mush.

    Edit to add: I hate onions with a burning passion. Every way except powdered. Onions induce the strongest gag reflex, and many people think I’m weird for hating onions. I’ve come to hate the flavor of (anything but powdered) onion by association, so I often can’t eat foods that once had onion in them even after being completely removed.

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      I have no problem trying new things. I just often immediately hate the new things. However, I will try it again after enough time had passed.

      This is literally all you can do. People have very little control over what they like (be that food, music, movies, books, whatever) all anyone can do is be willing to try new things, and occasionally retry, the things they don’t like.

      I will eat pretty much anything, but strongly dislike carrots for their taste and oatmeal for its texture. I haven’t have any occasion to retry oatmeal but I retry carrots pretty frequently.

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    I was an extremely picky eater as a kid. The funny thing is how I became less picky after I went vegan (in my teens.) It tracks with how we lose taste sensitivity as we age - children have more taste buds than adults. It serves them because a lot of things that can be harmful are bitter (poisons are often bitter) or sour (spoiled food goes sour), and for a small child a small amount can be more dangerous than for an adult.

    Anyway, as others have said, it’s a combination of texture, smell, and taste. Being a “super taster” isn’t as fun as it sounds - it means a smaller amount of flavor can seem stronger for you, and can easily become overwhelming. I still prefer bland foods sometimes for that reason. Light seasoning can go a long way. Texture can be awful or amazing, sometimes I crave a food not for its taste, but for its texture. As I noted in another comment, mushrooms have a texture that repels me. Eggplant also has a texture I struggle to tolerate, but I put up with it when somebody prepares something for me with it (occasionally people prepare vegan foods to help me feel included, but they don’t usually know my texture issues and I don’t want to be rude.) Hell, half of what drove me to veganism was texture, smell, and taste-based - a lot of animal products have textures, smells, and tastes that I couldn’t tolerate when I was a kid and made to eat them.

    Eggs smell awful, and the fat from meats have a texture that was too much for me. I remember sitting at the dinner table and cutting all the “fat” from my meats just to isolate a single square to eat… but my parents made me sit there and told me to eat the whole thing, even if we sat at the dinner table for hours. I never liked bacon, and I know the internet hates me for that (well, they already hate me for being vegan, but still), since it’s pretty much all fat even if it’s crispy. The smell does it no help, either. A lot of people enjoy the smell of cooking meat, but I never did. The closest thing would be chicken, but ever since I had pet birds, it became awful, too - ever smell a bird up close? They smell like warm chicken. Once that smell became associated with my pets, whom I lost too soon (they were only two years old, victims to teflon poisoning) I only think of them. Giving up meat was part of my closure after they died - it brought me a peace that I needed, and has continued giving it ever since.

    Please be kind to so-called “picky eaters.” Their sensory experiences are outside of their control. Don’t do like my parents did and try to force it, as that helps nobody. If you want to introduce a picky kid to a new food, be gentle and start slow. That’s how we do it at my job (working with autistic children, some which have extremely restricted diets that don’t provide proper nutrition.) It starts with tolerating it being on their plate, then progresses over time to them touching it, then to putting it to their lips, and only after all that do we encourage them to try a piece. It can take months. But if it’s something they absolutely won’t tolerate near them, just try something else - there can be very valid reasons they don’t want a particular food, but thankfully there are a lot of options out there.

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      If you want to introduce a picky kid to a new food, be gentle and start slow.

      …or you can just “let them be”. I also spent eons waiting at the dinner table for my food to magically disappear - sadly, it didn’t happen.

      When my daughter was starting to eat, she was rather " picky". My spouse (a vegan) and I agreed to just let her be, if she just wants to eat broccoli or tofu - fine (as long as she doesn’t show signs of malnutrition).

      As she grew up, she chose to try new food. She is actually a fantastic cook - I never made the kind of complicated dishes that she makes, when I was her age.

      Of course, she’ll never be the kind of person who will eat everything (neither am I), but that’s totally fine.

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        Yes, I agree. My advice is more for situations I’ve witnessed where a kid’s diet is dangerously limited (I knew a kid that, no joke, only ate chocolate chip Clif Bars. The family had to plan their vacations around places where they were sold.)

        But in most cases, just let the person be.