can i disable all google apps to escape this apocalypse?
You would need an unlocked bootloader and a custom ROM for that. I suspect that completely disabling google services on stock ROM is either not possible or will brick your device.
Also Google does provide an opt-out mechanism, for now. The restrictions will likely tighten in the future.
Maybe I’m making it up, but I seem to recall that disabling Google Play Services was enough. But that is easier said than done. Google did a Microsoft with internet explorer, and basically made the whole OS depend on Play Services. A lot of stuff won’t work if you disable them, and some of it is unfixable on stock android. You basically need a custom ROM to get away with it, and even then, it has some problems.
I don’t use google apps, dialers, gps, browser - most of things are from fdroid, so i believe i can live without evilgoogle crap.
The thing is, Google Play Services is integrated into the OS. Like Microsoft back then, they’ve made it so that the OS doesn’t work properly without it. For example, notifications won’t work. Some background tasks will stop. The battery will last less time. You won’t be able to log in to any google app, and some third party ones won’t let you log in either. Forget about banking apps. The list keeps going…
I really don’t know how Google is allowed to do all this after Microsoft got (rightfully) destroyed in court for doing the same with Internet Explorer.
With evilgoogle services shut down battery lasts longer. Notifications only from non google phone, sms and email app. My bank lets me use online without app. So while you are right for most people - in my case i not lose no important thing. I even still on android 12 phone just to be sure i can disable assistant and avoid gemini.
I de-googled my phone and the battery lasts 2 days now. Just throw MicroG or GAPS on a lineage android and you’re golden. took me a day to do my gf and Is phones. Google can eat a dick.
the year of the Linux
desktopphoneIf only bank apps would work on Linux mobile environments…
Can you not just use their website? If you can’t, that’s terrible.
The website uses the bank app 2FA. Without it you can’t login.
What if you don’t have a mobile device?
Then you use a desktop, ATM, or go to the bank.
Here in Switzerland UBS forces their custom authenticator on you. If you don’t have a “compatible device”, they ship you a card and card reader as authenticator. That reader is horrible to use, and has button as smusshy as Haribo Gummybears…
How did the button taste
Do the bank websites not work on a browser?
the website wants you to 2fa with the app
the website doesn’t offer this feature ! pleass check out our app!
It’s funny how gullible these people who use social media as News are! It’s as if they never heard of as search engine or ‘fake news’.
Great prank!
This isn’t fake news https://keepandroidopen.org/
Try a conspiracy theorist forum. It’s fake news.
That article isn’t saying anything I didn’t already know.
They’re making it more difficult to side-load; not impossible: The article explicitly acknowledges that Android must remain open and that sideloading must continue to exist.
F-Droid, Git, etc, are horrible places to obtain apps from. It’s in Android’s best interests to not make it easy or convenient. People won’t read a full proper warning like https://lemmy.world/post/48579911
It’s like the earlier scare on Android based TVs. They disable an app, but you can clone it anyway.
I’d only get from those sources things that Go ogle wouldn’t allow like PipePipe (even that I have no use for though).
Already on /e/os on my primary phone, hoping to find time to try postmarketOS on the secondary one.
There is no better alternative than postmarketOS btw, everything else relies on Android or isn’t fully open.
unfortunately postmarketOS just barely qualifies as usable, and absolutely cannot be pushed as a serious option yet unless people are okay with turning their smartphone into a feature phone.
I have PMOS on a Xiaomi phone that’s supposed to be fairly well supported. It’s very laggy, freezes often and won’t charge when turned on. I really want to like it but it’s just not there.
Lineage with MicroG for now. Next phone will hopefully be whatever Graphene and Motorola are working on.
That’s why it needs support.
Linux desktops also needed lots of support before getting where we are now.
Imagine if support were given to a more worthy OS like BSD, or Haiku.
I’m not phonetistic, just regular autistic; does rooting the phone bypass any of this? Or will I need to install a hacked ROM or something? 🤔
I’m on grapheneOS which won’t implement this
I’m assuming other custom rooms won’t either
As long as your ROM doesn’t have Google Apps (or has them contained like Graphene) this won’t do anything.
A forked ROM is not a hacked ROM.
I’m getting to the point where I’m thinking about throwing this thing in the trash.
Flip phones
Is there going to be a class action lawsuit against this? If they’d have told me that I wasn’t allowed to install apps of my choosing on the phone I was about to buy, I never would have bought it. Them changing the terms two years down the line seems criminal
Jokes on them. I have a iPhone. It was never mine to begin with.
