This sneering derision you hold for the notion of people liking a piece of media that you don’t (fed by some unexamined ableism, judging by your moderation history and comments about “emotionally stunted adult children”) and that they might find some emotional resonance in it indicates a chasm of emotional maturity far greater than the 30something YA readers you’ve made into your personal specter.
And I say this as someone who also holds a dislike of the show for their own reasons, so find a different reason to write me off. At least I actually investigated it rather than parading around and shouting to the high heavens what a terribly smart and above it all boy I am.
In my initial response I explicitly said that I liked the piece of media. Now I’m exclusively responding to the disproportionate number of people I seem to have angered by pointing out that the writing in it is extremely on the nose and obvious, which it is.
Your comments are public. I am not naive enough to believe that is only what you were saying. Attempting to paint over backhanded smug garbage about media taste not being on a high enough level as being just “expressing your opinion” on it, especially since you took the mask off and allowed the ableism fueling it to show (modlogs are public too remember), is really gross. There’s a reason you kept getting modsniped.
Also let the irony escape no one that you also said all this wearing an Aqua Teen avatar, a show with such lofty mature writing as “what if a banana sexually assaulted people for twelve minutes” or “what if Hitler was a balloon and stopped the Holocaust because he liked Adam Sandler movies”.
Never underestimate internet forum’s ability to make you spend an obscene amount of time defending something you don’t even like because the haters dislike it for the wrong reasons.
My initial comment asserted exactly one thing: that TADC has simplistic writing and that younger people probably appreciate that. After that, people started swearing at me, which is when I asserted that people shouldn’t limit themselves to just watching simplistic media. After that, more people swore at me, which is when I got mad, insulted the original person, and the mods nuked my comments to that point.
My avatar was and remains a total non-sequitur.
It is not ableism to say that a person shouldn’t keep consuming children’s media exclusively for their entire life.
My initial comment asserted exactly one thing: that TADC has simplistic writing and that younger people probably appreciate that.
Sure let’s check that.
it’s also very much “baby’s first character driven story”. A lot of scenes involve the characters spelling out their feelings in no uncertain terms which, if your media taste is still at that level, reads as really deep and interesting
Hmm. And then as for “After that, people started swearing at me, which is when I asserted that people shouldn’t limit themselves to just watching simplistic media”, someone very justifiably told you to fuck off for that very backhanded sanctimonious bit about “if your media taste is still at that level”, you responded with “idk how old you are, but a millennial should be consuming media more challenging than TADC. Tell me I’m wrong.” which is very much NOT just saying people shouldn’t limit themselves to simplistic media, and is entirely rendering judgement.
You are in your 30s, you should be consuming more challenging media than TADC. That shit about cartesian dualism or whatever is fucking cope about a plotline that’s one step removed from Sword Art Online. You are what people are talking about when they complain about emotionally stunted adult children.
and THAT is where the ableism comes in. This has nothing to do with “exclusively consuming children’s media” or “limiting themselves to just watching simplistic media”. I frankly do not care how frustrated you are at someone for committing the high crime of telling you to fuck off, you don’t get to pull a Vaush and start spewing reactionary dogwater just because you deem the other person bad.
Ai-yai-yai. Some people pick the absolute strangest hills to die on. In cases like this, my first thought after Carl started going on about how “the ‘fuck off’ was unprovoked” was “Is this guy autistic? Is this why he can’t understand how he comes across to others? Does he really not see how he was being condescending in that first comment?” — but as the comments kept continuing, and continuing, and continuing, and people angrily yet patiently explained over and over again what the problem was… no, he was just being a dick! I mean, not that there’s a dichotomy between being autistic and being a dick, but you know what I mean.
My second thought then went to that viral video of the middle aged man on the Tokyo Metro yelling to complete strangers about how “THE FACULTY OF MEDICINE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TOKYO IS FULL OF IDIOTS!!! WHY DON’T YOU THINK THEY ARE?!? GIVE ME PROOF!!!” — which was obviously a public disturbance that wasn’t right to do, but obviously there’s a reason why he did that, right? Explanations I’ve heard being that he was either fired from UTokyo earlier that day, or more dramatically that his daughter had been killed by surgical error earlier that day and he was blaming it on the surgeons’ education. These are just unsubstantiated rumors, but either way there was something that made a lot of anger build up inside that man until he ended up having a public outburst that was unfortunate enough to be filmed, and unfortunate enough to make it past the general noise of the Internet to become an enduring meme.
It’s going to be similar in cases like this, surely. I’ve remarked before on how I think a lot of Hexbears live in materially challenging, stressful life situations, and that can make people emotionally volatile and prone to die on random hills like this. At the same time, there is probably some element of wanting or being used to power in Carl’s case — I don’t know — but there’s definitely a lot of ageist/ableist/elitist brainworms he has stubbornly refused to acknowledge, much less confront. Hopefully this will be a learning experience for him.
I think this is important to remember whenever there is a Hexbear crash out, they’re probably stressed and dealing with a lot of bullshit and come onto here and just want to be consoled and appreciated for their thoughts, not challenged and called out for bad behaviour. I know the times I’ve crashed out have been like that.
Consider for a moment if it was a reddit bro making this argument about the importance of antifascist art to defend Star Wars.
This sneering derision you hold for the notion of people liking a piece of media that you don’t (fed by some unexamined ableism, judging by your moderation history and comments about “emotionally stunted adult children”) and that they might find some emotional resonance in it indicates a chasm of emotional maturity far greater than the 30something YA readers you’ve made into your personal specter.
And I say this as someone who also holds a dislike of the show for their own reasons, so find a different reason to write me off. At least I actually investigated it rather than parading around and shouting to the high heavens what a terribly smart and above it all boy I am.
In my initial response I explicitly said that I liked the piece of media. Now I’m exclusively responding to the disproportionate number of people I seem to have angered by pointing out that the writing in it is extremely on the nose and obvious, which it is.
Your comments are public. I am not naive enough to believe that is only what you were saying. Attempting to paint over backhanded smug garbage about media taste not being on a high enough level as being just “expressing your opinion” on it, especially since you took the mask off and allowed the ableism fueling it to show (modlogs are public too remember), is really gross. There’s a reason you kept getting modsniped.
Also let the irony escape no one that you also said all this wearing an Aqua Teen avatar, a show with such lofty mature writing as “what if a banana sexually assaulted people for twelve minutes” or “what if Hitler was a balloon and stopped the Holocaust because he liked Adam Sandler movies”.
Never underestimate internet forum’s ability to make you spend an obscene amount of time defending something you don’t even like because the haters dislike it for the wrong reasons.
My initial comment asserted exactly one thing: that TADC has simplistic writing and that younger people probably appreciate that. After that, people started swearing at me, which is when I asserted that people shouldn’t limit themselves to just watching simplistic media. After that, more people swore at me, which is when I got mad, insulted the original person, and the mods nuked my comments to that point.
My avatar was and remains a total non-sequitur.
It is not ableism to say that a person shouldn’t keep consuming children’s media exclusively for their entire life.
Sure let’s check that.
Hmm. And then as for “After that, people started swearing at me, which is when I asserted that people shouldn’t limit themselves to just watching simplistic media”, someone very justifiably told you to fuck off for that very backhanded sanctimonious bit about “if your media taste is still at that level”, you responded with “idk how old you are, but a millennial should be consuming media more challenging than TADC. Tell me I’m wrong.” which is very much NOT just saying people shouldn’t limit themselves to simplistic media, and is entirely rendering judgement.
and THAT is where the ableism comes in. This has nothing to do with “exclusively consuming children’s media” or “limiting themselves to just watching simplistic media”. I frankly do not care how frustrated you are at someone for committing the high crime of telling you to fuck off, you don’t get to pull a Vaush and start spewing reactionary dogwater just because you deem the other person bad.
you are seriously insufferable man the reddit bro is coming from inside the house here why are you like this
I reiterate that my initial comment on this was just about the show having simplistic writing, then people started jumping down my throat.
suck shit out of my ass
Ai-yai-yai. Some people pick the absolute strangest hills to die on. In cases like this, my first thought after Carl started going on about how “the ‘fuck off’ was unprovoked” was “Is this guy autistic? Is this why he can’t understand how he comes across to others? Does he really not see how he was being condescending in that first comment?” — but as the comments kept continuing, and continuing, and continuing, and people angrily yet patiently explained over and over again what the problem was… no, he was just being a dick! I mean, not that there’s a dichotomy between being autistic and being a dick, but you know what I mean.
My second thought then went to that viral video of the middle aged man on the Tokyo Metro yelling to complete strangers about how “THE FACULTY OF MEDICINE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TOKYO IS FULL OF IDIOTS!!! WHY DON’T YOU THINK THEY ARE?!? GIVE ME PROOF!!!” — which was obviously a public disturbance that wasn’t right to do, but obviously there’s a reason why he did that, right? Explanations I’ve heard being that he was either fired from UTokyo earlier that day, or more dramatically that his daughter had been killed by surgical error earlier that day and he was blaming it on the surgeons’ education. These are just unsubstantiated rumors, but either way there was something that made a lot of anger build up inside that man until he ended up having a public outburst that was unfortunate enough to be filmed, and unfortunate enough to make it past the general noise of the Internet to become an enduring meme.
It’s going to be similar in cases like this, surely. I’ve remarked before on how I think a lot of Hexbears live in materially challenging, stressful life situations, and that can make people emotionally volatile and prone to die on random hills like this. At the same time, there is probably some element of wanting or being used to power in Carl’s case — I don’t know — but there’s definitely a lot of ageist/ableist/elitist brainworms he has stubbornly refused to acknowledge, much less confront. Hopefully this will be a learning experience for him.
I think this is important to remember whenever there is a Hexbear crash out, they’re probably stressed and dealing with a lot of bullshit and come onto here and just want to be consoled and appreciated for their thoughts, not challenged and called out for bad behaviour. I know the times I’ve crashed out have been like that.