‘The food is tasteless and there’s not nearly enough and they’re hungry all the time’
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/iran-war-soldiers-food-shortages-mail-b2959960.html
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Just saying, the US Navy used to be able to deliver ice cream to troops fighting in the Pacific, and care packages to jungles in South East Asia. Now sailors go hungry ON the ships, with nothing but uncontested waters between them and the US, and surrounded by allied countries.
Pissed of allied countrys.
I’m genuinely shocked at how weak and incompetent the US Military has looked throughout this entire operation. Iraq and Afghanistan were shit shows, but the US was always able to handle the essentials of logistics and so on. The machine worked, it was just clumsy and hard to steer.
Somewhere in the gap between Afghanistan and Iran, that machine has been left without even basic maintenance.
And yet we give the military more money than ever.
The most “lethal” fighting force in history folks. No pesky details like rules of engagement or logistics.
Its honestly kind of hilarious to see the military directed by morons who are obsessed with “lethality” and culture war nonsense, meanwhile they lack even a rudimentary understanding of how the military functions.
Anyone who understands how a military works could tell you that logistics is not just half the battle, its basically the entire battle. During WWII, 8/10 servicemen worked in logistics. The Nazis were defeated via logistical advantages. American military dominance was created and sustained through the buildup of interconnected bases which enabled them to quickly and efficiently move people, equipment, and supplies around the world. Without that system working effectively there is no such thing as the “lethality” that these dumbasses goon over. Apparently, they believe it comes from thin air
Lots bases in the middle east are abandoned now with lots of the hosting countries taking over them and all the supplies we left behind. I read an article I think yesterday about syria taking over a bunch of bases. And Iran by itself ruined a bunch of ours across the area recently
So they’re cut off, basically? I feel for the soldiers, but I hope their discontent starts fomenting something
Or goals or strategies.
Good. We should ship the fuck out of the middle east.
Abandon israel entirely and distance ourselves from Saudi Arabia. We can still maintain a close relationship to Jordan and lend international legitimacy to Rojava.
That’s my geopolitical wish list for the US.
I don’t think Rojava state exists anymore, resolution there was merger with Sharaa govt. which finalized recently.
It’s because they didn’t plan for shit, and there’s no supplies because they didn’t expect to be there this long because Trump thought war is easy and quick, because he’s a fucking idiot.
We SUPPORT the Troops!
-The people NOT Feeding the Troops!
I had the unfortunate experience of being extremely anti-war in the US right after 9/11, the amount of “so you support the terrorists??” In my life at that time was way too many. I always answered that “no, I support the troops by not voting to send them into unnecessary foreign wars” which of course they were appalled by, because of course it was necessary!!!
It feels a lot like that again. Except this time it seems most people understand this war is unnecessary
I can’t help but wonder how many of those troops voted for Trump considering the military still leans quite right, it has to be many. My heart goes out to the rest who chose to be there due to circumstances of their lives giving them no better options.
iirc the military is like 65% RepublicanMAGA, with enlisted troops being 75-80% RepublicanMAGA.
Even so, they don’t deserve to starve. Food is a human right, and MAGA idiots are humans too.
Wrong, there was a vote few months ago at the UN to make food a human right. Only two countries voted against it, the USA and Israel.
So the US don’t consider food to be a human right.
I guess if the US and Israel think something, that makes it right ¯_(ツ)_/¯
It sounds like they should have voted to align with their needs, then.
Anyone who accepted orders to go fight in Iran can get what they signed up for imo. An order has to be lawful to be required. These people are spineless.
My son is 22 in a few weeks. He is allowed to make his own life choices and I try to never tell him what to do but be more of a guide. We sat down and I TOLD him if the draft happens again go to prison before you go to war. He immediately agreed this was already his stance. We talked about a friend of mine who’s parents fled Nazi Germany (to work on the manhattan project no less, he’s a cool person to know) and how their family members who stayed behind and chose to just be “good Germans” by going along with it absolutely regretted it, how it tore apart families, just really emphasizing that from his family’s experience being the “good German” was a terrible and irreversible mistake. Don’t serve, don’t help, love your countrymen and build communities.
What the hell do you expect them to do, quit?
Nearly all of them aren’t doing anything that terrible. And for the few who do have targets, it’s hard to question if your targets are legitimate or illegitimate, particularly beyond a shadow of a doubt.
What the hell do you expect them to do, quit?
… yes?
Or keep flushing t-shirts down toilets and starting laundry fires, that’s cool too
This was a war of choice. At some point the US needs to lose worse than it lost in Afghanistan to become more cautious of starting unnecessary war in the future. The US public, not just the military, need to remember it and tell their future children about it to avoid a repeat of it. The swift success in abducting the president of Venezuela gave the current US administration a sense of invincibility that they could repeat it in Iran.
“We have the strongest military in the world. You shouldn’t be running out of food,” Dan, a Marine veteran, told the outlet.
It is increasingly evident that this may not be the case. The US lost to Afghanistan, is incapable of concluding the war with Iran on its own terms, and I can’t see the US winning against PRC. What we know for certain is that the US has the most expensive military in the world.
The water is right there just catch some fish duh
Give a man to fish and you will have fed him for a day.
Teach a man to shoot the sea mines and you will have fed him and his buddies for the duration of America’s latest illegal war.
Chumps
Scarce and shitty food is one thing, but if you fuck up the mail (and these days the internet), you’re gonna have a really bad time.
Failing to feed your troops is one of the fastest ways possible to tank morale. Mail from home comes every few weeks. You eat three times a day.
Word from home and communication with people you love, especially in the era of instantaneous global communication, is a powerful thing. Not that food isn’t a motivator too, but you expect some missed meals and low quality as the ops tempo increases. Miss a meal and you’re pissed until you get to eat again. Jack up a guy getting video of his kid’s last ballgame and he’ll stay pissed even after he gets it.
Stop fighting for a pedophile and go home, there’s plenty of food there.
You do realize that’s not actually an option right? Like, you can’t just quit the military. You can request your release, but they’re not gonna grant it until your ship gets cycled off of the operation and returns to a friendly port, and that’s assuming they grant it at all. They absolutely do not have to, and during an active military operation they’re extremely unlikely to.
Well looks like like the Eisenhower followed the example of the Ford: ‘sorry, can’t go, our ship is on fire’
Eventually the citizens of the US are gonna realize that they really aren’t the best country in the world. Maybe before we all starve to death.
At least, I hope so. My friends and I can’t be the only ones.
I’m confused and not American. I read the article. Why are they not sending food to their own troops? Where’s the logic in that? Is there a foreign force intercepting the “airspace” ? Why would “civil authorities” order this space to be shut down? Fuel shortages? I feel like there has to be a very obvious reason and it’s flying over me completely
I am an American, I also read it so I can answer you.
The military is feeding the troops, just very poorly and quite frankly this should be a huge scandal. People are also sending food via care packages to their family members but military zip codes across the region were “closed indefinitely” so there’s no where to deliver to. The air spaces are closed because the region is at war. In the paragraph directly after the part about airspace:
“Interruptions and delays in mail service have been a part of every American conflict since the Revolutionary War,” he told the outlet. “Communications and supply networks that work well during peacetime are invariably disrupted during wartime."
It’s a supply lines during wartime thing
If we can’t even feed our troops or keep the most basic function of our government open as opposed to just disrupted, the US is founded on our post office practically! it’s a very bad sign for us being able to keep supply lines open for a war.
Thanks for replying but this doesn’t give me a satisfactory answer. I understand that during war you as a civilian may not always be able to deliver items to troops, and that the post may not always be able to reach places.
However the country should try to feed those troops and keep them alive, otherwise what’s the point? Why would you kill your own troops?
If it is well known that you have this group of people starving, why isn’t the government doing anything about it? Why aren’t they even bothering to reach them? Forget the post, the “best army in the world” can’t spare a single vehicle with supplies to reach starving troops? It’s not a situation of nationwide famine or poverty. They have resources. I just don’t understand why this is being allowed to happen. There isn’t a reason stated anywhere for the post to stop working, or for the army to not do anything. Who benefits from this? The whole situation appears to be easily preventable and solvable yet nobody in a position of power is doing anything? Why?
TLDR basically I don’t understand why it’s not a scandal and why anyone is trying to fix it. You said the army is feeding the troops but poorly and this leaves me just as puzzled.
Maybe firing all the competent generals because they aren’t white and racist was a bad idea.
All of the US bases in the area have been destroyed. It may also be that Iran has better control of the air space than centcom wants to admit publicly
I’m confused and not American.
I need this on a t shirt. Feels like it’d sell a lot, since the rest of the world can fucking relate.
