• Cope is putting it lightly lmao. Western “journalists” are such pathetic sycophants. The amerikkkan economy is mostly fictitious capital and amerika produces nothing but suffering. Printing dollars is not an economy outside bourgeois “economics”. amerika is living that joke about 2 economists on an island passing $100 back and forth.

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    Why is Spain so based? They are obviously still neoliberals, but they do seem to be going against the grain.

    Is there any material reason?

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      It’s one fallen empire recognising another on its way down. The brits would be the same if they could come to terms with being the withered husk of their past self

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        I think the nature and demise of Spain’s empire is key. It was a massive, globe spanning empire with control of vast silver and gold - almost none of which remained in Spain. The Spanish Empire was stuck on a debt treadmill whereby other European powers hoovered up all that gold. Merchant cities in Italy and early capitalists in the Low Countries and England were huge beneficiaries of all that American gold and silver the Spaniards stole.

        That meant the Empire was never capable of doing productive capital reinvestment back into the metropole. It never really got to industrialize and build the productive capacity to challenge the rising capitalist empires. By the end of the 19th century, it was hopelessly outmatched militarily, economically, and industrially by those capitalist empires and didn’t get to meaningfully participate in their imperial competition.

        Spain didn’t develop a large industrial proletariat and mostly remained an underdeveloped agricultural peasant economy even into the 19th century. When the revolution failed, fascist Spain was backwards compared to the big European powers and sat on the geographic abd political periphery of the imperial core.

        Spain has just never had the same skin in the imperial capitalist game as the major White Empires.

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      Sánchez in particular is hoovering up votes from the radical coalition to his left as they tear themselves apart, and he’s always been about the big-dick, high-stakes plays. Important to remember that there has always been a significant anti-NATO block on the Spanish left. Joining in the first place was seen as a significant compromise by Gonzalez.

      More materially, Spain spent the last few decades building out infrastructure to the point that they now have excellent infrastructure themselves, and Spanish infrastructure corps are huge players internationally. This, combined with their role as a shipping gateway to Europe, creates an incentive to seek relationships outside of Europe/US.

      Germany has always been against this — remember their constant carping about “fiscal responsibility” after the financial crash — because what they want from Spain is a cheap holiday destination, not another European power center. So Spain is often best served by going against European strategy.

      EDIT - there’s another thing that I don’t see mentioned much: Spain has a huge Chinese population!

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      Is there any material reason?

      The Spanish-American War caused many spaniards, specially those on the left, to distrust or hate the US. Even Franco used to support Cuba during the Cold War just to mess with the US.

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      I think it’s two things: 1) they have a set of relatively robust social programs that are extremely popular because they provide direct material benefits to people, and because of that firsthand exposure they’re opposed to others being deprived of it, and 2) they had a failed fascist dictatorship in close enough in recent history that they’re less likely to buy into those ideas.

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    For the record at the end of the month China is turning off the tap for sulfuric acid. This will create a worldwide shortage. Spain is a big trading partner for that. Besides Spain we also import some from China directly and bunch from Canada and Mexico (some is arbitrage from China). So we got that going for us.

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    the_world: “america, let me introduce you to my little friend… impending irrelevance.”