Mine is when someone tried to tell me that superannuation (my countries version of 401K I think) is communism

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    Not specifically communism but mine is The Tragedy of the Commons where they explain that in a free market (completely deregulated), profit maximizing situation among competitive, non-communicating economic actors the environment is destroyed and there is complete resource depletion. Not only is it just neoliberal capitalism but the economic actors are all from the guy’s imagination and don’t behave like any group of humans ever, anywhere, in recorded history. This is somehow a vErY iMPorTaNt EXamPLe of why capitalism is the best system for social organization and managing scarce resources smuglord And it has persisted for like 50 years or something, which is incredible considering the argument falls apart at the first investigation.

    My second favorite is the picture of empty grocery shelves in Amerikkka during COVID 2020 that says “this is life under socialism”. For some reason there were no pictures of Goldman and AIG guys in 2009 with that caption but that’s a different story.

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    That bourgeoise Chinese teacher guy who’s educating ivy league students about how communism was invented by jews, to control the world or something like that. I’m sorry I did not commit his name to memory.

    This must be what they taught BoBo at school and why his regime banned schools, glasses, intellectuals etc.

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        I’m overly simplifying here, but I have a hypothesis that the underclasses created by a hierarchical society are forced to engage in the most struggle, struggle is where all knowledge originates form, even if the underclasses do mange to crawl to the top they will only ever be allowed in the outer rim of “Heaven”, not inside Heaven itself. And this leads to a paradox where the “advisor” is more capable than the ruler. This conflict has existed before capitalism and will likely exist after it, which will be the next struggle perhaps?

        What I’m thinking about is not Utopia, it’s something scarier. A place where everyone has fully developed sense of self, capable of functioning autonomously, every single person is a leader and at the same time a worker. I suppose you could call it Outer Heavens kojima

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          The first part is just regular Marxism, it isnt an unsubstantiated theory.

          I don’t understand what you are referring to by “Heaven” though. So the rest is hard to follow.

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            Heaven - A state of eternal bliss. Absence of struggle.

            Hell - A state of eternal struggle. Absence of meaning.

            Outer hell - Gateway into hell, for those running away from meaning, seeking to purely live with no thoughts.

            Outer heaven - Gateway into heaven, for those who choose their struggle, knowing they won’t ever see the fruits of their labor.

            Then there’s the people who see this and try to carve a 3rd way, because they see that there’s nothing at the end of both paths. Except there is no 3rd path, all they’re doing is desperately clinging onto now and re-shaping currently existing bounds of knowledge, afraid to learn something new. They’re obsessed with replicating. See how they treat concepts like infinity, dimensions, they think that you can predict a “4D” cube just by studying the relationships between 1,2,3 dimensions. All they’re doing is stirring up soup, they’re not making anything new. The further humanity moves, the more collective effort is requires to discover something new. The more difficult it is to organize and the more power each individual has the more people will be trying to destroy you, because they don’t want to move forward. So the only way to progress is to establish a group of people who aren’t afraid to face it to the end, together, against all odds.

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    ”Breadlines? Food shortages in stores? This is just gommulism Eastern Bloc blah blah!”

    Yeah, except it’s happening right now under capitalism, and obviously the system isn’t stopping it from happening, which is intended behavior. Not that wild, I guess. Uhh…one time I saw someone say Canada trying to implement a digital currency was communist…somehow?

    • Yeah, except it’s happening right now under capitalism, and obviously the system isn’t stopping it from happening, which is intended behavior.

      I think the problem here is that it’s only happening to the poor, and they can’t imagine themselves in this situation. The shelves might as well be empty if you can’t afford anything on them.

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    Translated from a forum topic about a recent murder incident.

    “See, wealth is not living in a luxury complex. It is living in a detached house and, if possible, in a place with its own parking lot.

    Skyscrapers, housing estates, and commune settlements are the socialist mindset adapted to capitalism.”

    These white-collar wannabe bougies think any fascist development in the country as socialism.

    The country is built upon the oppression of the leftist movements, and every leftist movements were purged brutally. Unfortunately, educating these fools is not possible under these circumstances, they are all lost causes.

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    The communism = poverty thing.

    Most of the world is capitalist, and most of the world is poor. Only a tiny number of imperial core capitalist countries are rich, by exploiting the others.