My therapist made a comment about how China is a failed socialist experiment because they have 2-3 year olds working in factories. I responded “So we’ve been told.” She looks at me like I’m crazy. (Not a great look for a therapist) “I’ve not seen any evidence of that.”
“Because they’re such a closed country!”
“Which means you have no evidence to your point either?”
“Well, missionaries… anyway!”
The idea that China is a “closed country” is fucking wild, there are literally hundreds of millions of people travelling in and out of there every single year, not to mention the tons of Chinese people who work and study abroad who are in regular contact with their families back home, and likewise all the foreigners who work and study in China doing the same.
You should ask your therapist if they are an r/worldnews mod lmfao
It’s a “closed country” due to the something called the “Chinese language” which creates a black box of communication between westerners and Chinese comrades.
the great wall of china was a language barrier all along
“Because they’re such a closed country!”
“Which means you have no evidence to your point either?”
“Well, missionaries… anyway!”
YOU CAN GO THERE ON VACATION
BUSINESSMEN GO THERE ALL THE TIME
ENGLISH TEACHERS
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All KKKri$$tian missionaries should be shot with arrows
IDK those ones in Central America in the 80s seemed pretty based
The ones that helped the CIA crush liberation theology? Not based.
No, the ones helping peasants organize coops against the landlords
Sauce!!
The Houses are Full of Smoke: Guatemala (1987) by Allan Francovich
“A 3 year old? Really? You believe that 3 year olds who can’t put the blocks in the right holes have the dexterity and mental capacity to be useful factory workers? Is that really what you believe?”
Idk about 3 year olds in China, but in Capital Marx does describe 4 year old factory workers in England so tbh “common sense” isnt a good argument here imo
Back then you could use children for things like filling bags and boxes with screws and nuts or whatever, but I very much doubt any of that sort of stuff isn’t being made in huge automated factories in China at this point.
Someone else has made a point re: object permanence not kicking it i find more convincing
Regarding this point, in marxs time it was less “fill bags and boxes” and more “run stuff back and forth” or “squeeze into the machine and see if you can see whats jamming it”, “sort these products into groups” or “push this button every time X happens”
New type of guy: Abolish child labour because I don’t trust kids to do good work.
Related to the “do you have any idea how expensive slaves were?” Type of guy
youre joking, but that was indeed a line of argumentation used by child labor opponents in britain during the XIXth century.
Bro said XIXth instead of 19th
is it uncommon in english?
Eh, I was just being a poophead since it takes longer to type out
ahh, sorry. its just that in my language we either use roman numerals or full words for this, so it didnt even occur to me that one could use indo-arabic numerals, lmao
Ahhh! Don’t make me feel bad! I’m sorry!
I can’t imagine 2-3 year olds being productive in any labour context.
No fine motor control. Abysmal gross motor control. Limited reasoning skills. Object permenance skills.
Someone with a psychology background should’ve rubbed their two braincells together on this issue and realize not to listen again to whoever told them this.
The news seems credible, until they talk about your domain - and you see how little sense it makes. She doesn’t even care about how much sense it makes.
the first 2 sentences is like a post you would see on linkedin
“Well, missionaries… anyway!”
what does this mean???
She kinda mumbled something about missionaries having reported seeing the child labor. Then she changed the subject.
missionaries
christian ones ?
Yes.
ewww
why would you ever care about the opinion of some of the worst people on earth
The best thing about this is that I remember when the propaganda was that the one child policy had resulted in a generation of spoiled “little emperors”.
To be fair this is at least vaguely based in reality, at least for the urban middle classes. The combination of pressure to get good exam results + four grandparents doting on one child + both parents working, often absently + economic growth meant a lot of millennial kids (my generation) were extremely coddled. I didn’t grow up in China but I saw how my cousins grew up and yeah. The flip side was that they had to take twenty supplementary classes a week or something just to “keep up”, thank fuck the government has banned that shit how.
Apply even an ounce of critical thinking to that, a 2-3 year old working in a factory is a fucking liability. You really think goo goo ga ga ass diaper baby is going to learn how to make widgets? THINK PLEASE
I figure it was hyperbolic. I’ve always heard criticisms of child labor in sweatshops in China. I don’t really know how to combat it because they never give any actual proof. I figure the rumors (or any truth if there is any) comes from the US exploiting them for cheap labor maybe?
Historically there certainly had been a lot of child labor in China (not toddlers, though), basically like in any other developing country except that China was bigger and had many more factories than the other examples, and there were of course many teenagers sent to work in various capacities in the Cultural Revolution, but it’s not like that now though.
The people who are more up-to-date complain about suicide nets, 996, and penal labor. Ironically, the most infamous issues with Chinese workplace suicides (and accompanying sweatshop conditions) were from the operations of Foxconn, a Taiwanese company.
It’s also a valid response to literally any comment possible.
So we’ve been told.
So we’ve been told.
So we’ve been told.
