• lime!@feddit.nu
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    2 months ago

    i really do prefer working in an office but i need a reason. if you don’t need me there, why should i be there?

    granted, i work with hardware which i need access to in order to do my work, but that’s a reason right there. if i’m having an algorithm day, why be in office?

    • FenrirIII@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 months ago

      Working in the office is more about control than anything. I’ve been WFH for 12 years now and it’s amazing because I can still do my work without some unnecessary middle manager breathing down my neck

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        2 months ago

        sure that’s nice but i usually work with an actual team where fast changes to hardware is needed. can’t really do that through github issues.

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          2 months ago

          Those are fair points, but not my points. I’m working with people from all over the world and being in an office would bring zero benefit for me. aside from being on the road for two to three hours a day.

          • hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            2 months ago

            This is why I appreciate a hybrid and very flexible approach. My work wants us in the office, but isn’t really particular about it. Because we do work with so many international colleagues and have late/early meetings and travel quite a bit, as long as you’re usually in any one of our offices for a few hours 3-4 days a week, they really don’t care. Having come from an identical work environment that was 100% WFH, I honestly prefer a flexible in-office because it does make collab much easier, while still allowing for a good work/life balance.

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              2 months ago

              Being in the office drains me a lot, so I prefer to work 100% from home. But I know different people have different preferences, so to each their own.

      • HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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        2 months ago

        Eh, I’ve seen collaboration tank due to full WFH. People don’t talk to each other, which means they aren’t asking each other questions or coordinating with others on projects. It also pushes managers to become a bottleneck as individual workers don’t form informal connections with each other to ask for help.

        Also, people are a lot nastier to each other when they are outside of punching distance.

    • CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
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      2 months ago

      I hate when people say “I’m a plumber and I have to go to work, why do you office people get to work from home”.

      Don’t you remember how good traffic was 4 years ago? Do you drive to clients houses to invoice them or do it from the home office?

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        2 months ago

        This is like people who work on overhead electrical cabling saying, “why do you people get to work on the ground?”

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        I have to work in person and I’m jealous of people who have jobs that they can work from home, but I despise traffic and the less people on the road the better for the environment and the less stressful for everyone who is on the road, so I’m all for everyone who can and wants to WFH being able to WFH. Everyone has different circumstances, and we shouldn’t all have to share the same misery just because.

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    2 months ago

    I’m of two minds. If it’s a crappy recruiter, I open with a ludicrous salary request to compensate for the wasted time - if I get it, I retire 20 years early. If I don’t, no harm done.

    In an interview situation, I’d lead them along. Let them get to an offer and then explain that I’m not available to stroke their ego. Waste their time some.

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      Every recruiter that has called me over the last three years when I tell them my salary requirements, they ask me if I’m serious, and they tell me that there’s no job in the world that would pay me that amount of money, and I’m like, I’m already working a job that pays me that amount of money within a few percentage points.

      Why should I take a pay cut to come work for you? And they never have an answer.

      More explicitly, I’m making mid-six figures, and they’ll call me up and offer me a job that pays like $60,000 a year, and I say, sorry, if you want me to come work for you, I’m gonna need mid-six figures, plus a little bit extra to make it worth my while, and they realize they have called the wrong person.

      And it’s always some dipshit recruiter who is trying to hire me for a starter position in the field that I have 14 years of experience in.

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        2 months ago

        There’s a lot of offshore recruiters trying to make a win by spamming for every opportunity that opens.

        My number for them for in person office work is 3-4x current gross. It hasn’t worked out for me yet but maybe one day!

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    2 months ago

    As a friendly reminder, people don’t owe businesses their labor.

    Funny how Lori talks as if they own the business, but they’re just a recruiter.

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    2 months ago

    How fucken dare you inquire about work culture norms and expectations. Get the fuck out of my office.

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      2 months ago

      We don’t want anyone who would consider themselves even remotely on the same level as the leaders here. How dare you question us! Know your place!

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    2 months ago

    I almost got an in-office job recently that would have doubled my pay. I’d make that trade. But they went with someone with “more cross functional experience”, what ever that means.

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    2 months ago

    Imagine all the good help the businesses would receive if it weren’t for those small time Napoleon’s gatekeeping.