• YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    Did I fucking miss something‽

    Why is everyone just casually using this and other words I have never heard before? I feel like I’m having a stroke or developed a strange, new, and exotic aphasia!

    • Baggie@lemmy.zip
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      4 months ago

      Yaoi has been in semi common use for about 20 years I want to say, mostly in japan enthusiast circles.

      You noticing it everywhere is pretty common for words you only just learned, it’s called the frequency illusion.

  • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 months ago

    Top Gun is probably the single gayest thing that the human race has ever created and straight men just think it’s the bee’s knees.

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      4 months ago

      See also: Commando. And Red Heat. Honestly, straight men spent a lot of the 80s and 90s lusting after Arnold Schwarzenegger’s rippling muscles.

      • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        4 months ago

        Kumail Nanjiani was asked in an interview if he’s been getting more attention from women since bulking up. He said something along the lines of “it’s mostly been a lot of attention from straight guys too be honest.”

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      4 months ago

      It’s not a contradiction, although I also thought that for a bit. I think with《“a [b]” c》, “a [b]” is describing the artists’ sexual orientation, not the subject of the drawing.

      So that’s gay men’s depiction/conception of yaoi.

      • multiplewolves@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Yaoi is generally by women. That’s part of the definition.

        When it looks like that second panel, it isn’t yaoi, it’s bara (at least in English).

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            4 months ago

            Afaik, Anne Rice was not trans. Many women identify with gay men in my experience. Her writing was very typical of women writing men.

            Her writing doesn’t represent the bara-type content shown in the second panel of the post, and to that point, your counterpoint is to the graphic in the post rather than to me.

            The picture in “gay mens yaoi” is characteristic of bara, for which there is already a term. I was just pointing that out. I wasn’t picking a fight.

            • atomicorange@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              I was just joking around :)

              Her writing definitely falls under the “straight woman” yaoi stereotype in my opinion. I just think she’s neat and very silly.

              • ᓚᘏᗢ@piefed.social
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                Why do you find Anne Rice so neat and silly?

                I read some of her vampire books when I was young teenager and getting into gothy stuff and every single one that I picked up had multiple and extensively detailed csa scenes with children who adored their abusers.

                I gave up trying to read her books when I realised this was a recurring theme.

  • AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    Okay, hang on, lesbian yaoi sounds like an oxymoron.

    Is it common for lesbians to like yaoi? I guess if you’re not sex repulsed by men and enjoy romance in general then you’re probably fine reading stories about mlm romance, but to seek out mlm stories specifically when you’re interested in women seems curious to me.

    • atomicorange@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Who I want to fuck doesn’t necessarily overlap with who I want to read stories about. I’m happy to read about or even watch sex acts I’d never want to actually participate in.

      • ᓚᘏᗢ@piefed.social
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        4 months ago

        As someone who Identifies as aro/ace and pan (i.e. not interested in having sex or intimate relationships, but still attracted to folk), I cannot upvote this enough.

        Getting off to something is very, very different from actually wanting to participate in it irl.

        Team footballers and maybe the bear, here.

        • Leon@pawb.social
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          I think it’d be really weird to need to be able to get off to every character/story you read about. As a gay dude, that’d be a struggle on account of all the hetero characters in all the media. I feel like most of the time I read something that has non-hetero characters in it, they’re mostly lesbians, or bisexual.


          Completely off-topic, but I’ve seen your handle a few times now and it makes me happy every time.