The fallout from Trump
's war on Harvardwill long outlast his presidencyI suspect that Trump would be one of the most influential presidents, destroying a superpower in record time. China had the mythological evil kitsune empress Daji, we have the real world Trump.
This guy will be in history books, for all the wrong reasons.
“Harvard’s got to behave themselves,” he told reporters gathered in the Oval Office. “Harvard is treating our country with great disrespect, and all they’re doing is getting in deeper and deeper and deeper.”
Years ago, someone on Tumblr had a comment on respect, which very much applies to Trump and his fascists:
Sometimes people use ‘respect’ to mean “treating someone like a person”, and sometimes they use ‘respect’ to mean “treating someone like an authority”.
And sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say, “If you won’t respect me, I won’t respect you”; and they mean, “If you won’t treat me like an authority, I won’t treat you like a person.”
And they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.
The fallout in general. The USA will not rekindle the trust and respect it had in my lifetime I imagine.
Which is a good thing as far as I’m concerned. The US never deserved that trust and respect.
WW2 says wut?
I mean okay but right after you had the Korean war so… uh… yeah.
Wait, are you taking North Korea’s side in that conflict? Bwahahaha.
No, he’s saying it was none of our business. We weren’t exporting democracy, just extreme capitalism.
It does nothing to refute the US’s contribution to WW2, a non sequitur at best.
Yes, they contributed a lot but also done a lot of nasty things such as dropping nukes and importing a lot of horrible war criminals. They also waited before entering the conflict and if it wasn’t for Japan, they might have entered too late.
Good point, actually.
Canada declared war on Germany in 1939, because it was the right thing to do.
The USA declared war on Japan two years later, the day after Pearl Harbor. Soon after, Germany and Italy declared war on the USA.
So, like you do realize that prior to our physically entering the war, we ramped up production of war material and basically supplied the allies?
Like, I do respect Canada’s decision, don’t think for a second I’m diminishing that. But if we hadn’t spent time ramping our industrial out put, the allies very probably would have lost. Pearl Harbor gave us a kick in the pants, though we were already building our military to enter. you don’t go from a tiny, basically non existent military to 2.2 million strong overnight.
edit to add: it’s a lot easier to get 11 million people to agree politically than 130 million people. there’s simply more inertia. we can debate about what should have happened, and such. the reality is that we did enter the war indirectly.
Outside of American history, a LOT was happening in the second world war. You may not have been exposed to that education.
Remember that before the US entered the war, it demanded all of the UKs patents. It was a trove worth absolutely billions back then. Mercenaries.
The curriculum you may have seen may typically paint the US as being the single-handed victor to a righteous battle, as the trend goes, but they missed a lot in their summaries.
The curriculum you may have seen may typically paint the US as being the single-handed victor to a righteous battle, as the trend goes, but they missed a lot in their summaries.
I’m not saying that’s not true. But it’s equally unfair to say that Americans weren’t contributing to the overall war effort until 41/42 when we entered with troops. the soviets and UK in particular would absolutely have collapsed if we weren’t involved. Also… I can’t find anything indicating the the US demanded UK patents, and certainly not all the patents.
What I am seeing (and what matches what I’ve seen before,) is that there was a mutual transfer of technologies that were largely strategic in choice. it was definitely uneven- some of it was a simple matter that we needed to know how to build the stuff you all wanted. Can’t exactly make torpex without the formula for torpex, right?
I suspect your curriculum was every bit as biased as mine. Which is the normal for history class. most places gloss over the, ah, troublesome, aspects. Germany is one of the very few places I know of that makes an active effort to not.
A German speaking person criticizing US actions during WW2 is absurd. Remind me, what contributions Germany had in that war? America sacrificed tremendously to right the wrongs of Europe in WW2. My grandfather was surrounded in Bastogne during the Battle of the Bulge, survived and went on to liberate several German concentration camps where Jews were being slaughtered and has photos of the piles of dead emaciated bodies to show of it. The allies, yes including your Canada and the US ultimately supported free Germany until the Berlin wall fell and helped make it the powerhouse it is today. I do not defend current US policy, but to say the US has never deserved respect is fucking bizarre and totally off base.
My grandfather came from Poland and was a pow in Germany.
I hope Winston Churchill is English enough to quote.
Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted.
It’s weird to hear Harvard being labeled a “stronghold of the left.” I suppose it could be true given just how close-minded the right is. I also don’t know much of what all Harvard does.
I’ve said it several times. Harvard runs shit in the Boston area more than people outside the New England area realize.
Harvard runs shit, in broad daylight secrecy, from within a democratic stronghold.
Pok the caw in boston hobba.
