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      The idea of “political plurality” as such turns out to be the negation of the possibility of achieving any kind of truth in the realm of politics, it reduces all historical and value claims to the rank of mere opinion. And of course, so long as someone’s political convictions are mere opinion, they won’t rise to defend them. And so the liberal state remains the dictatorial organ of the bourgeoisie, with roads being built or legislation being passed only as commanded by the interests of capital, completely disregarding the interests of workers. Under regimes where political plurality is falsely upheld as a supreme virtue, the very notion of asserting oneself as possessing a truth appears aggressive and “authoritarian.”

      from https://redsails.org/brainwashing/

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    Populism

    IE: doing popular things that make people like you, is inherently bad and evil.

    They’re so scared of the unwashed masses they proscribe anything to do with them as evil regardless of the nature of the politics.

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      right-wingers stole populism like they stole libertarian, and it liberals are more than happy to lump the right-wing populism of the last 20ish years with the general popularity of social programs. the original Populists were proto-socialist farmers in the 19th century and they were probably about as good as white people could get at the time short of our boy.

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    Considering most libs are quite fond/indifferent of socialism (which to them means social democracy in Scandinavia) it’s a massive hitler particles moment to call yourself an antisocialist lib

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    People actually talk this way about liberalism? Almost all of the Usian libs I have talked to about politics basically don’t realize they’re socialists or just don’t have that deep of an understanding of politics at all. I don’t think I’ve ever met one in person who was like…proud of it? Maybe it’s because I spent most of my life in very conservative areas or something so it’s not the status quo

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      yeah every normie i’ve ever known that defines themselves as a “liberal” is actually a demsoc or socdem or undefined leftist. because in the U.S. liberal has always just meant “not conservative”.

      normie liberals just call themselves centrists or apolitical

      i thought actual, ideological liberals were confined to the Accela Corridor