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If you live in society with other humans, politics will involve you because it literally means things that concern everyone. People not wanting anything to do with it just means democracy isn’t working.
democracy isn’t working
Nailed it.
I’m a first-generation immigrant.
My parents are like: “Stop criticizing [Country we are from]”
Also parents: “I like the job here and the pay is good, back in [Country where we are from], the pay was bad and it took a long time before the payments arrive.”
They currently work a Union job. Strike action is illegal in my former country.
Reminds me of a time I was arguing with a friend in a pub. He didn’t vote and thought it was pointless etc. I was saying:
Me: “Have you been to <city> recently?”
Him: “Yeah”
Me: “Have you noticed a the amount of homeless people?”
Him: “Yeah, it’s getting really bad now isn’t it”
Me: …
Him: “What’s that got to do with the government?”
At this point, a random woman leaned in to comment.
“You know, I agree with your friend. HE shouldn’t vote.”
I on the team of this woman when it comes to quite a few people
And yet despite arguing with people and writing my representatives and voting every damn chance I get politics has not improved those things one iota and now I have an ulcer and disowned family members.
Also: Not funny, didn’t laugh.
You don’t have to be “into politics” to hate the state of current situations. We can all feel left behind when infrastructure fails, society piles on, prices skyrocket and basic homes are out of reach financially.
You can get into politics minimally, you don’t have to nerd out on it, but everyone should have a basic understanding of the political system.
It’s like complaining that your house constantly catches fire but never bothering to realise that your extension cable monstrosity is causing the problem. A basic understanding of the electricity would have prevented the fire in the first place, and learning about electricity now would prevent future fires. But instead you just complain that your house catches fire every other week.
Exactly, I actually hate politics with a firey passion and would love nothing more than to be able to ignore it. But I hate the current state of affairs even more, so I am forced to pay attention.
It’s like how I dislike wiping my ass, but I love having a clean asshole. Sometimes you have to do things you don’t like to get the preferred outcome.
That’s fine. Just don’t waste anyone else’s time complaining about that stuff if you’re not going to exert the minimal effort to do anything about it.
i think the point they’re making is that not being into politics prevents one from recognizing the root cause(s) for these problems and indirectly perpetuates them. which I think is by design honestly. it’s in the best interest of capital owners that working people are not interested in politics.
You don’t have to be into “water” to hate the state of being thirsty. We can all feel parched and frustrated when we don’t drink it, don’t pay our water bill, or eat a cup of salt every day.
Everything is political. Trans people need you to talk and act like it is, so politiphobia can’t be used for transphobia. Engaging in politiphobia is a microaggression against trans people.
This is an unpopular opinion, but yeah. I wouldn’t go so far as microaggression, but whenever someone says “I don’t really care for politics” it makes me think of all the anti-trans bills and how apparently they just don’t give a damn that that’s happening, or don’t even care enough to learn that that’s happening. Do you care about trans people being oppressed? Congratulations, you care about politics. That’s just kinda how it works, and it sucks.
THIS is literally the exact kind of bullshit that makes people not take you seriously, whether you like it or not.
Politiphobia IS NOT a thing! There’s almost no way to use the word ‘microaggression’ without sounding like a self-important twat! How about we focus on securing some actual rights for trans people before we start trying to deliver awkward/juvenile ultimatums regarding micro- anythings? 🧐🧐🧐
Posts like this miss the forest for the trees to a dangerous degree, imo
Using inclusive language is part of the political process to change laws and get rights.
Meeting people where they are is a vital part of the rhetorical process. The bigots and oligarchs are speaking the language of the ordinary people and a lot of those people are making it clear that their vote is contingent on such things.
I get the value of inclusive language. I’ve been involved in trans activism for a long time and I’ve watched us go from “please stop referring to us with porn categories and dehumanizing language” to things that while I agree with definitely can come off as nitpicking.
You’ll get way further telling someone that they’re only able to not care about politics because there are a few heads in front of them on the chopping block and that the guy with an axe keeps telling them they’re safe. You’ll also get a lot further bringing others’ needs into the realm of their concerns. Its why I’m a huge proponent of PFLAG. A lot of straight and cis people struggle to empathize with queer needs, but can readily see themselves in the shoes of our parents. The right has learned this tactic from gay activism while we’ve let it fall to the wayside.
The thing is, no matter who has the power nothing changes, so why care?
More than just Trump, I’ve never seen such a contrast between what Biden tried to do vs what Trump is doing. Surely you prefer one or the other. Surely you can see such a humongous difference. Yet too many people didn’t get their instant gratification so decided to tear it all down.
Biden policies biggest problem was building a better country over a decade or more when he only had four years. The biggest issue is voters without an attention span.
Ive always thought it a good thing the country flip flops every four years. Constantly switching to a new direction quickly enough to keep us trending somewhere in the middle. But Biden demonstrated building solutions to modern problems is complex and takes a long time, while Trump is demonstrating how quickly you can tear it all down once you decide you’re above the law and you’re the only one who matters
Surely you can see such a humongous difference.
I think ‘humongous’ is being charitable.
What we got under Biden was significant inflation and drastically reduced spending power among most of the poor and working class. Under Biden it became a meme that food staples were becoming cost-prohibitive, and while that wasn’t wholly his fault, he clearly didn’t do anything meaningful to change it. That Biden supported a genocide just alienated more voters who wanted real, substantial change.
How likely are you to vote for the incumbent when you’re working three jobs at upwards of 100 hours a week and you still can’t afford to feed your kids?
In exchange Democrats offered excuses, and as you’re watching Donald run roughshod over the Federal Government, you can plainly see that Democrats had all the power they needed to make real change when they controlled the White House and Congress.
Then, when Biden’s condition was no longer possible to hide, they gave the voters a huge ‘fuck you’ by crowning a candidate who stated publicly she wouldn’t do anything different.
significant inflation and drastically reduced spending power
Yet that was mostly a consequence of preventing a pandemic recession. This is back to needing the time. It did work itself out by the end of Biden’s term. People still suffered with the accumulated inflation but current inflation was under control. We needed more time with inflation fixed we’d eventually grow out of it.
And the egg thing is so ridiculous. A temporary consequence of trying to prevent bird flu from becoming the next epidemic or affecting the entire food supply at once. Yeah it sucks but I don’t want the alternative.
In exchange Democrats offered excuses
