• neatchee@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    In all seriousness, this is what happens when you write novels without doing any world-building and just put down whatever seems “fun”. The are sooooo many things in that series that make no sense once they are superceded by later plot devices. Rowling didn’t think any of it through ahead of time and gave almost no thought to internal consistency with previous content when she wrote new things.

    It’s honestly a terrible series in most regards and it’s kind of disappointing how popular it became.

    Also she a trans-hating bigot. Fuck J.K. Rowling. Can’t forget that part whenever discussing her or her work.

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      6 months ago

      This is what I tend to say to people about Harry Potter as a series. It was the first series like it to become popular, and that’s its only merit. Overall it’s very tame and bland, but it got lucky and became popular. I didn’t like it because it was too same-y. After book 3 or so, I don’t care about Harry Potter anymore. Explore someone else that’s more ordinary. It makes a much better setting for derivative works, which to me as someone who writes textbooks of lore for RPGs is more important than just making a series sell well.

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      6 months ago

      Rule of cool supersedes making sense. Yeah there’s a ton of nonsense, but you called it yourself, it’s fun. That’s all that matters.

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        6 months ago

        More than fun. It’s whimsical.

        She’s a terrible person. I read the books to my kids but they are puarated so she doesn’t get a penny. Same for the movies.

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          6 months ago

          What happens when your kids want to buy merchandise from a store? When they get older and decide to spend their own money on DVDs? What about the racism and misogyny these books teach to children?

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            When they are old enough to make their own decisions they can. I’m able to seperate the art from the artist, without introducing them to hateful commentary that they aren’t able to properly process yet.

            Not showing them Harry Potter does not mean they won’t be exposed to the media or the merchandise through friends and shops.

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              I’m also able to separate the art from the artist, which is why my house is filled with original Hitlers. I find his perspective interesting.

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                Hitler, again, was an even more awful person. That doesn’t make the autobahns that his government started a bad idea. However, we as a world society decided that the data from the nazi experimentation on twins, on people with disabilities and others would be destroyed.

                Hitler was an artist, but not a great one from my understanding. It’s trivia, rather than who he was. He was a monster that killed millions. It’s very different.

                JK is an author. It’s what she’s known for. Her work has not changed based on her views which were not known then. In fact, I think some fans were upset when she retconned some characters to be more woke, prior to becoming transphobia personified.

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                  Her work may not have “changed”, but many elements in retrospect have obvious bigoted undertones, whether she intended them or not. We simply weren’t looking for them as children, and didn’t notice or understand.

                  If you’re interested in what some of these things are, Youtuber Shaun has an excellent video going over some of them.

                  Also, the Hitler point was merely a reductio ad absurdum to demonstrate that “separating the art from the artist” is pure luxury.

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                    Neil Gaiman is an alleged rapist. Does that mean the sexual scenes in his books are not valid?

                    Horrible people is part of the human condition. Erasing them means we don’t learn from it.

                    We can now better recognise the problematic parts of her work to gently help kids to appreciate it. Kids won’t get the metaphors with slavery, racism, sexism that all exist with the potterverse. However, showing them these problems even in a fantastical world can help them better understand them in the real world.

                    Her work doesn’t become pointless just by virtue of her being horrible. For some artists, that can even be the point. Look at Joss Whedon, who was lauded for writing powerful female characters. It’s now clear he was abusive to the young women in his vicinity. Does that make Buffy less of a heroine or more?