• DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    The DNC is, and always has been, a red herring thrown off by those who want to justify their endorsement of Republican victories.

    Nobody cares about the RNC,and they literally have the exact same amount of power. The only real difference is that Dem primary voters rejected the more-extreme candidate in 2016, while Red primary voters stumbled their way to Trump after losing two POTUS campaigns that they thought would be easy wins.

    There’s a whole bunch of blame to go around on the left for 2024, but arguing “the DNC is corrupt” doesn’t help anyone learn from the mistakes.

    (Personally, I am going to refer to Biden 2024 for the rest of my life whenever someone questions a primary challenge to an incumbent.)

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      11 months ago

      The only real difference is that Dem primary voters rejected the more-extreme candidate in 2016,

      If you think voters have had a day since 2008…

      You should do a lot more listening and a lot less talking.

      (Personally, I am going to refer to Biden 2024 for the rest of my life whenever someone questions a primary challenge to an incumbent.)

      Because that is literally the complete opposite of what you should have learned

      They shoved an uncharismatic, unpopular, conservative, genocide supporting geriatric down our throats again after 4 years of inaction after hiding his mental decline over four years.

      And you’re like:

      The problem is they stopped shoving him down our throats

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      11 months ago

      There’s a whole bunch of blame to go around on the left for 2024, but arguing “the DNC is corrupt” doesn’t help anyone learn from the mistakes.

      It does. Since the DNC is corrupt, they’ll need to be either coerced or sidestepped entirely for any real change to happen. “The DNC is corrupt” is a prelude to the much more important argument of “unity behind the DNC will never get us anywhere,” which I hope was made abundantly clear by the last nine years of American politics.

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        11 months ago

        , they’ll need to be either coerced or sidestepped entirely for any real change to happen.

        THAT HAPPENED IN FEBRUARY 2025

        you’re yelling that we need to have a fight that we’ve been having for decades and literally just won…

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          11 months ago

          Ken Martin had his first real test in David Hogg and he failed it. He might be an improvement, but he seems to not be a radical change from what was there before. That said my point isn’t that the DNC should be reformed (though that would certainly be welcome), but that the American left needs to be willing to criticize and organize against the DNC. If that’s not necessary then all is good, but American progressives need to be willing to beat the Democratic Party with a stick when it misbehaves rather than make excuses about how every election is The Most Important Election Ever™. Around these parts in 2024 you couldn’t write anything criticizing the DNC or Biden (later Harris) without being called a Russian troll and that attitude needs to change.