DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated……
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
Locking this topic because y’all clearly can’t stop trying to argue politics. Please use the relevant comms instead and not the comments of YPTB posts.
This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it’s never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.
So they’re lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte’s regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.
Pretty much, yeah. It looks like they’re going on this as “evidence”
The Justice Department shared records, not previously made public, detailing how police officers in Maryland assessed Abrego Garcia was a member of the MS-13 gang during an arrest in 2019. He had no criminal history at the time, which the documents also state, and his attorneys have denied that he is a gang member.
We all know a police officer’s “assessment” doesn’t mean shit, but it seems this is what they’re working from.
Hilariouschaos seems to pop up a lot here lately
There’s a good reason for that.
Hilariouschaos and Lemmy.today tend to be known to be the conservative instances.
Hilariouschaos is one person pretending to be multiple people. Unhinged behavior
How do you know?
Half joking but it’s the vibe I get. EveryoneNot sure how many actual people there are but the admin(s) definitely has multiple accounts and talks to themselves in “themed” communities. Like the Governor Chris Christie account
today is only ‘conservative’ thanks to one very prolific poster. Some of us are sane. Block ‘that’ user (and all the alts, I guess) and the community he posts in.
Hmm, I don’t know if I can do the bang within a hyperlink, so here !conservative@lemmy.today
That community only has one user.
I got into a discussion with two of the admins there. They basically have every intention to sit on their hands and do nothing at all about that troll, even though proof was brought right to their fucking doorstep.
So it seems .today is going to be his own little personal echo chamber.
mrmanager of lemmy.today is just a bartender keeping to himself
They protect Universal Monk and his alt characters even after having been given evidence. They basically chose not to bother looking into it.
I’m about ready to block the instance. Not much of value will be lost.
Nothing at all will be lost. They’ll still show up in the modlogs. That’s where I saw this idiot’s work.
I think I was banned from there for calling out one of Universal Monk’s alt characters. I still see his shit show up in the logs.
Idk when chuckles became a mod or admin but they’re eleventy times worse than Alice.
It’s certainly chaos but there’s a distinct lack of hilarity.
Alice is okay, just a bit overenthusiastic with niche communities.
Chuckles seems to be a completely different level
Nazi instance supporting Nazis, not a shock.
PTB, clear and simple. Someday they will be mass defederated. I don’t think my instance gets them, but I haven’t been looking for more digital self harm by reading Nazis advocating for my kind to be removed.
PTB, clear and simple.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Someday they will be mass defederated.
One can dream.
I don’t think my instance gets them
We do. 👍
“He’s MS-13!” Prove it in court then. Fuck me I’m tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy ‘debates’ about it.
Already proven in court. Twice.
Sure it has. Go on, do tell. Which court? What case? Who was the Judge?
Ok, that’s something. Let’s see, the article headline still says “DOJ Releases Dossier Of Deported Maryland Man’s Alleged MS-13 Gang Ties.” Emphasis added by me. Now why would they say “alleged” if the court already found him guilty? Ah, right, because those were bond hearings. Yes, I actually read the legal documents linked by that article and both court findings were that the unproven claims of gang affiliation, combined with the fact that he had missed traffic court in the past, were sufficient to deny release on bond until his status hearing could be held. No further hearing was ever held. At no point did the legal system establish guilt, make a definitive finding of fact, or make a judicial decision on his deportation.
So, unless you have other court records to link me to that show otherwise, then you are wrong: no such thing has been legally proven.
Edit: Even the appeals Judge refers to it as “allegations of gang affiliation” in their order affirming the lower court decision that you are calling proof.
Trump won because Elon Musk helped him create fake ballots in swing states.
Don’t give them so much credit. He won because of voter suppression laws targeting groups who typically vote democrat, and general laziness from democrats resulting in low voter turnout like usual.
Both can be true
So you think the ninety one million people are lazy democrats? Not a single lazy “I refuse to vote in protest” socialist among them?
Why would a socialist ever vote for the Democrats?
Because our only other option was what we have now. It was never a good trade for anyone. But take a look around and ask yourself if Kamala would have done ANY of this shit.
Hell. Just take the damage trump’s little pet gremlin Elon has done.
Think about it. There would have been no DOGE under Harris.
That alone should have been why socialists should have voted for the democrat.
Another reason is Project 2025. He TOLD them what was going to happen. In detail. So again, there was plenty of reasons to use their vote defensively.
They chose not to.
And let’s throw in the fact that this discussion and the entire comment section wouldn’t have existed under Harris. And that is because the post would have existed. And that is because it wouldn’t have happened. And that is because we would all still have a right to due process.
In the event that they, or you- need and further answers to why they should have ever voted for a democrat- I’d suggest they read the news…
… every fucking day, for the next four years.
Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…
38% of registered voters didn’t bother to vote. I think many of them couldn’t stomach either candidate in the fake two-party system and didn’t think a third party or independent could win so they didn’t bother. If that 38% had gotten behind a candidate like Jill Stein or a write in campaign for Bernie Sanders, they could have beaten Trump and Harris.
Jill Stein was a spoiler candidate to help Trump
no she wasn’t
And if significantly less than that 38% had voted for Harris when Trump told them he would destroy America, they could have beaten Trump.
Ask yourself why Trump wasn’t put in prison for Jan 6th as soon as Biden took office. There are not two separate parties. There is a single party pretending to be two parties. They all work for the same corporations and they all take bribes form AIPAC. That’s why 38% didn’t bother to vote.
what are you gonna do about it?
grow up, either grab a rifle and start shooting at political candidates or vote for the lesser evil, you can’t sit in the corner and cry like a 5 year old waiting for the teacher to come and defend you.
This is the real world, nobody is gonna help you but yourself.
Yes, it is unfair, it is fucked and it is bad, but really, what are you gonna do about it?
there are lots of other options
Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …
I’m no anti electoralist, but people are still protesting the genocide.
There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse
No, that’s not what they said, and I still see most of those names posting around Lemmy all the time
Usually saying “toldja”, fun y enough
Either we’re not talking about the same crowd, or you need to work on your reading comprehension
I haven’t gone anywhere. Frankly you’re a piece of shit for implying everybody who cared about gaza was a foreign troll. The fact you’re entirely lacking empathy for foreigners and only care about your own sheltered ass doesn’t mean we’re all like that. Scumbag
that user is always occupying the ever-common Lemmy superposition of dunking relentlessly on people for being pro Palestine, but then if pressed will desperately act like they’re also pro Palestine and claim that it’s your responsibility to prove why they’re not.
This one you’re replying to in particular is also just a chauvinist who loves calling Russians orcs
loves calling Russians orcs
Orcs : (in fantasy literature and games) a member of an imaginary race of humanlike creatures, characterized as ugly, warlike, and malevolent.
Average ‘anti-racist’ lib.
Edit: a word
You have gone somewhere; you’ve gone through what, 200 alts? I expect this one is about to get added to the pile, you sweet little treat. Just filling every conversation with sunshine. Working on that third aneurysm yet?
Yeah no offense but I don’t see any point to interact with you people using any other terms but insults
Is there evidence for this?
Oh yeah, that guy is a real dipshit.
Yeah. And what’s sad is that he seems to revel in it. How fucking pathetic must one’s life be to find joy in being a massive pile of shit?
Some people are so poor that all they have in life is money.
This is my now daily(?) suggestion for admins to defed from HC and for users to block it
I definitely think LW needs to defederate from them. There’s little they offer that doesn’t have a better alternative elsewhere.
somewhat new to Lemmy, how can a user block an instance? so far all I’ve been able to figure out is blocking individual communities
If you’re on desktop, click on the arrow by your username in the top right. Then click Settings. On the next page, click on Blocks and scroll all the way down to Block Instance to type in an instance name.
If you’re on the Voyager app, go to Settings, then Filters & Blocks and scroll all the way down to Blocked Instances to type in an instance name.
Methods may vary for other browsers/apps.
Blocking an instance (unfortunately) does not stop users from that instance from replying to you or from you seeing their comments. You’d have to block the individual accounts as you see them.
Depends on what app you use.
For Voyager you go to settings > filters & blocks > add instance
Chuckles the clown should be put on blast everyday.
The administration of HilariousChaos aren’t any better as they don’t have any control or want to have any control over the people in their instance.
The entire instance is a fucking joke in name only. I was invited to make an account there around when they started by some kid named “Alice.” I noped the fuck out the minute I saw what it was:
A shit-tier wannabe cover-band of 4Chan’s greatest hits.
Is it mostly traitor lunatics or just random stuff including the traitors?
They need to be found and blasted, that way no one has to deal with them anymore
PTB.
Like, I get not wanting “political” content in your instance. But guess what, everything has a political side! And the comment is completely related to the topic at hand (Garcia being kicked by force from one dictatorship into another, with no proofs that he would be a mara).
It’s in a “conservatives” community, so, politics is pretty much the wheelhouse.
And even considering the source, one would think there would at least be some sense of maturity when it comes to moderating, but nope.
It’s wannabe edgelord trolling, even in the moderation/admin team.
That makes it even worse.
Yes it does.
Like, I get not wanting “political” content in your instance.
The post was more political than the comment, just saying.
And once again they move the goalpost and there’s absolutely fuck all we’re going to be able to do about it. 2 weeks ago we were angry that people were kidnapped and sent to a deathcamp. 1,5 weeks ago we were angry that people didn’t even get a trial. 1 week ago we were angry that someone wasn’t “supposed” to be sent to the death camp. Now we’re angry that they say this man was a gangmember without evidence.
The discussion has moved from “sending people to death camps is fucking insane”, to “it’s okay to send people to death camps, as long as they’re gang members”.
This post is a big part of that goalpost moving.
Don’t let them shift the narative. Yes, everything that is happening is wrong, but focusing on them lying about him being a gang member, shifts the narative to a point where it’s okay to send people to foreign death camps, as long as they’ve done something the state deems criminal (in this case, being a gang member).
This post’s focus is simply about an asshole mod that thinks it’s funny to troll people using a moderator’s authority.
The fact that the guy has no criminal charges or what his association is isn’t relevant to the point, other than the reason said asshole mod chose to use as a way to troll someone.
Chuckles the clown is an accurate name. Hilarious chaos is not.
Well said… and I don’t know if I want to know what your username means, but I’m intrigued.
Inspired by an alcoholic shot called a Buttery Nipple. It’s delicious but I didn’t quite want THAT as my username.
/me websearches drinkIrish cream and anise liqueur? …fuck, this sounds too delicious to pass.Fair. And they are good. One of the few sweet liquor drinks that I can tolerate.
Yeah he’s one of ours? Is that implying that the Ecuadorian president is a member of MS-13? Also they don’t seem to understand that Ecuador in Venezuela are two different countries, although yeah that one doesn’t surprise me at all really
Maybe the Ecuadorian president has killed more people than ms13 and feels like an honorary member?
e: there’s another symbol from France Americans could learn from.
Good point!
Which judge? Which jury? What’s the case so I can look it up? What crime is he charged with? When is his next court date? What was he convicted of? What was he sentenced to, and by whom?
-Questions I’m going to keep asking
Edit: I just read that modlog. Unrelated? Eat more boots, jackass.
