• logicbomb@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.

    Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.

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        The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.

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        It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.

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          Good, let the USA burn their money and tank their economy bailing out a company nobody would buy a car from

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      Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.

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      Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions

      On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.

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      I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.

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        Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.

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    At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.

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        I don’t hear Alex Jones screaming about inside jobs.

        Probably because he’s way too far up EMu’s ass.

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          “It’s a fact: jet fuel doesn’t burn hot enough to make steel girders melt! It was the lithium-ion batteries from a Model Y and a Cybertruck fired by railgun into the Twin Towers, with Dick Cheney and Saul of Saul’s 3rd Avenue Deli pulling the triggers. People seen jumping out of windows were actually trans crisis actors wearing batwing suits, who nowadays tour encampments of Venezuelan gang members and Haitian cat rustlers across the Heartland with their drag, Spanish-language version of Hamilton. Buy my supplements!

          Whoa, sorry, don’t know what came over me there.

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          He’s still around? Whatever happened to people knowing when to call it quits and leave everyone’s lives… I swear, ever since the 2000’s and onward people just kind of stick around forever now. Guess that’s another awful side effect of the internet.

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            He sure is and I hear you! It’s unbelievable how cringy his show is now.

            https://knowledgefight.com/

            One of my favorite podcasts where they spend an ungodly amount of time dissecting his horseshit and laughing at him.

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              Upvote for Knowledge Fight!

              I used to listen to Alex Jones for fun way before he was big. It was genuinely entertaining. Then Sandyhook happened and it wasn’t so funny anymore.

              Knowledge Fight is like finding friends to make fun of Alex Jones with :)

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          It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.

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            The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.

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              There is a huge difference between an independently owned franchise committing arson vs the manufacturer.

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      13 days ago

      Of course he would have deleted it, so nice capture! And thanks for sharing. What a loser manchild -Elon

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        The entire point of the “blame Canada” joke is that it’s making fun of people who tried to blame their own problems on something that had nothing to do with the underlying cause for those problems.

        In the song Kenny’s parents literally say “should we blame the matches, or should we blame the fire, or the doctors who allowed him to expire? no blame Canada!”

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          The final verse really drives the nail home just in case anyone in the audience somehow didn’t get it:

          Blame Canada
          Shame on Canada
          For the smut we must stop, the trash we must smash
          The laughter and fun must all be undone
          We must blame them and cause a fuss
          Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

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    When Trump said he’d prosecute tesla vandals “with the full force of the law” it really highlights the unequal enforcement in our system. Its like saying “I’m going to turn on law enforcement right now just for this issue”. He clearly does not believe in laws or law enforcement, or else he’d see how absurd a statement it was.

    This and their dismantling of the EPA, IRS, FBI, and justice system shows that republicans are soft on crime, soft on wealthy tax evaders, soft on the legal system in general, and disrespectful of law enforcement, except insomuch as they can be used as personal storm troopers for issues they care about-- usually to promote racism and class stomping of the poors.

    Republicans are soft on America, but rock hard for Russia. I hope republican voters are proud.

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      How does the saying go? The core principle of conservatism is there are people the law binds but does not protect, and people the law protects but does not bind?

      Or, another similar insight: liberals judge actions as good or bad and judge people by their actions. Conservatives judge people as good or bad and judge actions by the person performing them.

      What Trump realized is he doesn’t have to even pretend to enforce the laws objectively. Conservative Americans want selective enforcement. They want the government to go after liberals and leftists and minorities with the full voice of the law. They want law enforcement to ignore conservative crimes and hunt down liberal crimes, because conservatives are good people so their mistakes can be forgiven, but liberals are bad people so they must be guilty of something.

      And that’s where Biden fucked up. He had the FBI go after Trump relentlessly for four years in the belief that, if he could find enough bad actions Trump did, he could discourage conservatives from supporting him in 2024. What he didn’t realize is, Trump’s supporters would never condemn any crimes Trump committed, because they believe Trump is a good person and therefore what he does isn’t a crime.

      All Biden did was give Trump an excuse to send his FBI after his political enemies too. And Trump and his supporters are happy to use that power far more widely than Biden did.

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      I hope republican voters are proud.

      You damn right they’re proud! As long as the powerful white man is hurting the right people to keep them in their place they’ll vote republican forever.

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    Aura Carreño Rosas is a Hamilton-based reporter from Venezuela, with a passion for pop culture and unique people with diverse journeys.

    What??? A Venezuelan who hasn’t been rounded up, deported and slung into in a third world concentration camp without even the pretense of due process?!?

    Come on Canadia, is that really the kind of country you want to live in???

    /s

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    American here, careful Canadians you’re walking on thin ice. We’re about to beg for your eggs while kneeling rather than grovelling on the floor. I’m fucking serious, we won’t pay a dime more than $1 per egg. Pretty please. This is your last warning.

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    The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”

    That’s it? Y’all Canadians are so polite.

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    Dumb ass American here. Does Canada’s prime minister or some other official have the same kind of pardon power our president does? Because they could do something pretty cool right now.

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    It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.

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      It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.

      Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.

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        For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.

        Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.