We’ve gone full circle from “Eggs are too high” to “Eggs are fine just shut up about it”.
Man I can’t wait for Trump to tell me that our wages being the same as they are since 2020 is actually a good thing when rent and groceries are going up, so we have even less purchasing power.
People are still gonna notice that they can’t afford groceries.
Are they though? “Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we’ve ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we’re gonna make it all better.”
trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can’t deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that’s not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.
I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he’ll pick the next entry on the “then they came for” list and start blaming them.
But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don’t get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.
Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won’t be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.
And that won’t happen under an oligarchy, because Trickle Down economics is a lie.
Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that’s just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it’s destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We’re all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn’t wrong People just don’t realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.
Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn’t exist
I’m pretty sure you were not necessarily quoting him directly, but I would point out that he and his apparatchiks have literally said such things, including how Biden’s economy, which was by objective measurements (yeah, I know they are imperfect) the "envy of the world, was AXETUALLY the “worst” economy ever.
Which is just such ridiculous nonsense. Meanwhile, donvict takes actions that have consequences, one of which is crashing the economy and they expect us to sit there and believe such nonsense? I know a lot of idiots won’t even bother to look it up, even if it’s just a graph of the S&P, but holy shit, that is some next-level, Orwellian-type brazen lying.
Cannot wait for the bothsiderists to claim how donvict doing things to actively crash the economy and then gaslight about it is equivalent to how terrible it was for Biden/Kamala to speak about an economy that was “the envy of the world”.
With some people, if they didn’t have dual standards, they’d have no standards at all.
Trump doesnt need to manipulate much. I live in deep red country. They are upset that fox has “completely changed” and they want to go to newsmax instead.
They are soooo fucking close to getting it. But the propaganda seed has already been planted.
That is not the insight you think it is. Newsmax is the successor to Fox. What you’re saying is they want to bury their heads even deeper into the fascist propaganda machine.
Seth Meyers:
Newsmax, if you’re not familiar, is if Fox News had a crazy uncle.
“With Sleepy Joe Biden, nobody had cardboard, it was so hard to get, terrible economy, everybody said so, even the Democrats. Now you look around this great nation of ours, under my plan, everybody has cardboard. Everybody. Look at any sidewalk, every person has a big piece of cardboard they can write on. Everybody is willing to work, it says so on the cardboard that everybody can get now.”
Dude just wiped billions of the economy, and he still thinks he’s going to be alive next year. Honestly, Russia got what they needed out of him. Just just a liability for them at this point
Trillions. There’s an article that hit my feed that shows that the NYSE and DJ indexes have lost 5 trillion dollars in value in the last 3 weeks.
“value” lol.
Should I have used the word “wealth,” or would you prefer “sum of the total dollar amount?”
I’m awful with the economy, dont understand it. Can you ELI5 how Trump has done that?
Mostly with his completely volatile temperament, threatening WWIII, threatening tariffs and trying to ignite trade wars. He doesn’t seem to understand that he isn’t doing reality TV anymore, and the market doesn’t approve.
For what it’s worth, you can’t tell people their paychecks are getting bigger when they aren’t. Biden presided over a “great economy” but wages stagnated and buying power decreased. Trump is going to Strangelove-ride this economy into a pit so deep it’ll be hard to convince people that everything is roses.
Yet this is all so politically driven.
For example, there were many minimum wage hikes during Biden’s term, lifting the lowest wages. At the state level. In blue states. Politicians in the states that needed this most blocked both federal increases and those for their own states. How are those politicians not the ones getting the blame?
As another example, legislation signed by Biden resulted in many additional business benefits in factories and trades. This would have created many new jobs, especially in some of the most low wage parts of the country. But not until the factories are built. And political changes where the government won’t follow through with its commitments means many of these will no longer be built. Why isn’t the administration stopping these new jobs getting the blame?
TBF Trump did exactly this in his first term when he changed the withholding to make people think their taxes went down, when in reality they ended up paying the same or more when they filed.
And that’s why trickle down is always a scam.
It’ll work for a while on some people, but yeah, eventually it’ll come crashing all down, especially if companies start using the fake figures into their future planning.
I’m pretty sure this is also why they want to annex Canada, Greenland, and Panama (maybe Mexico if they think they can get away with it). It’s the exact same strategy the Nazis used, and I’m not invoking that lightly: when their economy was absolute dogshit, the Nazis made it look WAY better by A) going to a war footing and B) invading other countries and stealing everything that wasn’t nailed down (then stealing everything else, including the nails.)
Genocide Joe told us the economy was doing awesome too.
The pseudo-science of “economics” is a fundamental tool of capitalist control. The subjective measurements of politicians are worthless. Why the fuck do I care about the “gross domestic product” when it’s literally destroying the planet, we’re all being paid shit, and I live in a concentration camp for opposing genocide?
/facepalm
I commented before I read all the comments, and was predicting this bothsiderist take, lol…I didn’t actually think there was already one. :)
Is this going to be different from the gaslighting that we’ve been receiving for the last four years that things are good? So far, one of the few things good to come out of the Trump administration is liberals finally admitting that the economy sucks, But they tend to think it started just a month ago.
- “I can’t afford groceries and rent right now”
Democrats in 2024: “That’s fine, the economy is great! Stocks are up!”
- “I can’t afford groceries and rent right now.”
Republicans in 2025: “That’s fine, the economy is great! Stocks are [redacted]”
If you asked the libs here 4 months ago about their paychecks they’d be honest and now they just lie to themselves. The economy is basically the same for everyone now, not just the 1%, but now it’s suddenly the worst thing ever because of eggs, or something.
Wanna bet if we ever get a Dem in office again they won’t arrest these fuckers?
I said since Biden got into office that the entire January 6th was a dog and pony show. And that Democrats would never charge one of their own which includes people like Trump. And 4 years later I was proven right.
Every 4 years I’ve been proven right.
But want the economy good? I mean I think Americans have faired better then most other countries. When shit is happening globally sure your going to be effected but compare to others.
Yes, the economy has been good by the most common statistics, and by direct experience of many of us.
However our increasing divisiveness also means too much of the population sees the opposite, or too many people are manipulated by outrage and emotion rather than fact. It’s hard not to call this politics, but it sure seems directly related to politics of each state.
I think the real issue is that quality of life in the US has been being chipped away at for decades. So while yes the economy was doing well, especially compared to most of the world, regular people don’t see it.
The issue in the US isn’t the economys health, but how it’s distributed.