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Is bluesky really eclipsing mastodon? jeeze
In the near term of course bluesky will, it has hype, it has rich tech people on it, it has 10s of millions of investment it can throw at stuff.
This is not how Mastodon or the Fediverse grows, our growth is real, not based on hyped and marketing. People come and stay here because it is a nice place, not because it is a popular or exciting new hangout spot that all the rich cool people are going to.
Well, I didn’t stay because I couldn’t figure it out unlike with Lemmy and my feed is still barely showing me anything new.
Mastodons onboarding process is truly abysmal. I think that’s the number one reason that people don’t use it. like you no one can work out how.
The signup process for mastodon sucks massively. Unless you’re nerdy enough to sort it out, you’ll give up then and there. Bluesky is very straightforward, while offering customization to those looking for a non-mainstream experience.
Same for Lemmy tbh.
I just went to mastadon.social for mastadon and like the biggest national lemmy instance we have, feddit. Although I have to criticize the old instance of feddit shutting down unexpectedly and I had to migrate to a newer one.
What is a Mastadon?
It’s an extinct species of mammoth. God knows why it’s named after an extinct elephant.
Right? 🙄
See y’all next time everyone gets surprised and upset when their centralized social media gets bought by a conservative sycophant.
Did they not learn a damn thing?
People are constantly say the same thing about Steam yet I don’t see any kind of pushback against everyone using that platform. Yeah it’ll suck when it eventually happens but that doesn’t mean I should have to use a more irritating service in the interim.
That’s a bit different IMO.
Moving social networks is way harder than buying goods from a different store (and there’s always piracy).
But I do take your overall point.
You could say Bluesky is… picking up Steam, eh?
Sorry, I have no new or interesting insights to offer, I’d hope most already get what’s happening, anyway.
Don’t worry about not having any insights, I still valve-ued the pun.
It’s nice to see other people enjoy the pun. Would be shame for it to be left4dead
I wonder why is Mastodon is not appealing to Valve.
Bluesky has 20x the user base (and the gap is growing wider every day).
I really enjoy Mastodon, but it seems to be too confusing with all the servers. I don’t know why, but maybe because people have been conditioned by big tech to use centralised services. Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.
Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.
Yep, I only 3 person IRL who know and uses Forum or Reddit.
They could just put their own instance alive,
not very hard for them, after they shown us what they can do,
They can make the changes happen, they showed us already.And thoses who wants the feed, just have to subscribe.
Reach?
If I wasn’t on Lemmy, I wouldn’t even know about Mastodon. It’s not really something you hear of outside of the fediverse, in my experience. Meanwhile, BlueSky is gaining traction and talked about everywhere. Most people don’t care that it’s not exactly decentralized. Most of the things the users on the fediverse care about are not things the average, not-very-tech-saavy person cares about.
Even my parents know what blue sky is. This is from the people that were concerned that my emails wouldn’t be able to find me when I moved house. Because “how would they know which house to go to now?”
If even they’ve heard of the platform, it’s reached the mass market.
Valve ceo built a billion dollars mega yacht fleet off selling proprietary games through a proprietary third party launcher. A free and open source decentralized platform does not appeal to them for obvious reasons.
“Why is Mastodon is not”
Basic grammar hard, apparently.
So how can I follow them from Mastodon?
This is my question too. Search results turn up Bridgy Fed, but that seems to require the account you’re interested in following to go through those steps, which none of the accounts I’m interested in are doing. At least the Threads POTUS account turned on federation so I can view it from Mastodon, but I suspect for the next four years, that account will be pretty quiet, and if it isn’t, I’ll probably want it to be.
Unfortunately, Bridgy Fed is currently opt-in. For a Bluesky user to interact with a Mastodon user, both have to follow the Bridgy Fed account. There is ongoing discussion about Mastodon instance opt-in, and making Bluesky opt-out.
I highly encourage you to participate in this conversation as a Mastodon user.
And Valve and Steamdeck accounts.
Found Steamdeck, but I can’t see a non parody Valve account - got a link/handle?
Edit: Valve Software, thank you.
Look at the boosted posts.
Why not Mastodon?
Because people moved to bluesky and not to mastodon.
Not true, Mastodon has millions of users
Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?
Twitter was bluesky before musk bought it, federation ensures that can’t easily happen to mastodon.
That’s it.
Cool. Now give me an argument why my mother would care about this fact.
Centralized and private = enshitification
Self hosted and federated = not prone to enshitification
Idk how simple it has to be for people but clearly I’m over estimating people
Okay. Now, explain the concept of enshitification. And do it using terms that regular folk won’t find crass.
You know how conservatives live in this bubble where they don’t even see their racism because it’s so normalized? We’re interacting within a bubble where everyone has a very high level of technical competence versus the average person, so we fail to understand just how tech illiterate others are.
Company focus on profit. even if mean overall experience get not gooder
I dumbed it down to caveman speech for those that still wouldn’t understand. It’s a simple concept all of use that have used the Internet in the past year have experienced.
The usual suspects couldnt care less. The more convenient it is the better. No matter how bad the future wil be.
Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?
Billionares with mega yacht fleets are choosing bluesky over mastodon.
Like it or not, a regular person doesn’t give two shits about that.
Talk for yourself, the average person does indeed care about the environment. In the past years there have been massive greenwashing campaigns from companies trying to please the average customer.
Man, I wanna live in your neighborhood. I’m surrounded by bougie people or people with bougie fantasies. They talk all the time about drinking wine on a boat.
That’s great, I suppose less concentration to a single platform is a better direction.
Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky? I would imagine whatever ills plague Twitter would also eventually come to Bluesky, because people are there. And people are people. We don’t seem to have a solution to the problem - which is a specific subset of people intent on harm, and allowing them direct and wholesale access to the social fabric.
So easy nowadays to fabricate rage-inducing and follower-generating bait. No time for truth and no plan to really get there. How long before we see someone take a stab at a ministry of truth?
Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky?
Yes, but I think that’s temporary. When you have tens of millions of users, that’s inevitable. Right now a lot of people are on their honeymoon periods, but I already see sprouts of negative attitude.
I will never not read “bluesky” as “bloo-skee”
Wow
