• I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.autism.place
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        I heard a story about a whole world that was perfect because they locked a kid up in a room and threw all the bad stuff in there with the kid. The poor kid suffered all of the world’s miseries so that others could enjoy life. That kid’s name? 4chan.

        4chan is 99% deplorable garbage. I won’t even go into /b/. Helllll no. But oddly enough, some of the internet’s best memes come out of there.

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            The original idea of a meme came from Dawkins in the 70’s, and “Internet Meme” from Godwin in the early 90’s, talking about message boards, usenet, listservs, etc.

            4chan did not start the concept, no. Lolcats came from 4chan, iirc. But internet memes predate the existence of 4chan.

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          4chan is what the internet would look like if everything had the bare minimum of moderation. Actually a very interesting case study about the human psyche, and I’ve had many a interesting conversation on there, especially early internet days.

          Is it a shithole? Overall, yes. But the right board at the right time is truly early internet ethos.

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            If the entire internet was as unmoderated as 4chan, it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is.

            But since there are only very few places like that, all the weirdos and nazis congregate there, cause that’s where they don’t get banned for using the n-word.

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              it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is

              I don’t really think so, every online fora I’ve been a part of starts unmoderated, and it works, for years sometimes. But every single time without fail when a platform reaches a critical mass, moderation becomes necessary.

              I think putting a digital mask on shows the true nature of people, and moderation is the only way of keeping conversation* civil on the internet.

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            I’m often hearing that 4chan is “unmoderated” or has “the bare minimum of moderation”, which just doesn’t line up with reality. Many boards have strict and specific rules about what content is allowed, what is banned, and how said content should be presented. Just listing some rules off the top of my head: you must have a minimum number of pictures to start a thread of /s/. Normal hentai porn goes into /h/, weird fetish stuff goes into /d/. No western art allowed on either. Content that breaks the rules gets removed within hours, sometimes minutes.

            If you see something that you find disagreeable on a 4chan board, it’s likely there because it’s allowed to be there. They aren’t struggling with moderation. The fact that it’s still online in the clearnet after so much media attention proves that they have enough jannies to take care of the illegal stuff at least.

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              Content and formatting rules are just to keep things on topic. When people mention the bare minimum of moderation, that is literally the bare minimum, and I never said they are struggling with it. They just choose to not remove any inflammatory or borderline content because they want to be that place.

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        Through this sieve would come the ascended madmen. Those who escaped the cave and rejected the reality without, retreating to their chamber of hate and stagnation. The truly unhinged. No more naive, parroted bastardizations of the Socratic method. Only irreparables.

        This select choir of lunatics voluntarily ablating their sanity will be decadence enough, I think

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      most of them were social outcasts long before 4chan. That’s actually how they got there in the first place.

      Everyone will be having pleasant conversations outside, but these guys won’t.

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    interact with people

    Instructions unclear, helicoptered my dick around but there appeared to be no ceiling fan.

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      And now the park security is approaching with tasers. I guess playgrounds aren’t considered America!

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    I think their cope is that “people aren’t mentioning that but they think it” etc

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      Between strangers, yes. For social groups, people tend to stop seeing each others looks as they get to know each other. This is where people’s advice to work on your personality is necessary. If you’re out just expecting random people to approach you because of your looks, you’re going to be waiting around for a long time unless you’re blessed with the lucky quality of being born gorgeous.

      If you go outside more you also notice that there aren’t a lot of gorgeous people in the real world. (No, Tinder, clubs and other places where people LARP don’t count as the real world.)

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        Wait, really? Whenever I spend more time at work or at home I tend to forget how many really attractive people are really out there. Whenever I go out after a long period of time I end up being positively surprised. I would also not look at Tinder as an example, but because of the opposite: people on tinder look much uglier than in real life. But then again, usually outside you don’t look at people for more than one or two seconds, while on tinder there’s loads of photos for you to examine every single flaw

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      I have friends from high school who fell into the alt-right rabbit hole. They are obsessed with transgenderism. If you believe their depressing timelines, trans people are absolutely everywhere, behaving like total degenerates and grooming kids left and right. They send me an unhealthy amount of videos to prove their claims.

      Meanwhile in the real world, I’ve encountered maybe 5 trans people that I recognized as such, and they were behaving normally, and not one tried to groom my kids! But if I tell them that they dismiss it on account of my woke mind virus / Trump derangement syndrome. They’re single, don’t have kids, and spend most of their time doomscrolling or watching the French version of Fox News, but they know better than me what’s going on in my kids’ school…

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    what if going outside means walking across a half ass tarmac parking lot and then sitting at a bus stop with homeless people for 30 minutes