• Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Yeah why would anyone pay 700 bucks for a highly restricted device, that can’t even play games online without an additional subscription. Just get a Steam Deck, which costs less, is portable, doesn’t require subscriptions, and basically works like a full PC.

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      I have a Steam Deck and a PS5 that I will be replacing with the Pro when it ships. So to give you an answer: I’m not going to be plugging a Steam Deck into a 4k 65" OLED TV with VRR. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Steam Deck, and I also enjoy PC gaming when mouse and keyboard makes sense, but sitting on the couch in font of a giant responsive display with amazing colors is by far how I enjoy gaming the most.

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          Because to me it is a worthwhile upgrade. If you compare the image quality in FF7 Rebirth specifically in the 60 FPS modes the differences are significant. The new ray tracing features in F1 2024 for the pro also made a big impact on how that game looks.

          In general, I don’t like gaming at 30 FPS and I’ve been noticing that developers don’t always do a good job with their choices when dialing it back to get 60 FPS. For example, I’m holding off on buying Black Myth Wukong because their performance mode looks flawed right now, and I don’t want to play it at 30 either.

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    A quick look on eBay suggests the only people buying them seen are scalpers.

    Hope they all get fucked on this one.

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      Build a pc.

      Install linux.

      Get confused by linux.

      What the fuck does linux want from me???

      Rip hair out.

      Be bald.

      People confuse you for skinhead.

      Wear wig.

      Wig blows off on sunny windy day.

      Lose wig.

      Be sad.

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        I agree for the most part but it really does “just work” for gaming. If you use Chimera or Bazzite it works almost just like a console.

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              It doesn’t for everybody. What is so hard to grasp about the fact that your experience isn’t a general truth?

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                You install the same OS, you get the same experience. That’s what’s hard for me to understand.

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              That’d be cool if that was true… But I installed nobara on my brand new PC and kingdom come crashed when I fast traveled, Hades 2 ran at like 20 fps, and dragons dogma just wouldn’t launch. I get Linux is cool and all but I don’t have time to troubleshoot every game I install anymore…

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                Not quite “just works” but I’d be willing to bet that your computer defaulted to the iGPU instead of your dGPU because you didn’t specify as such in your launch options

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                It is true. I specifically mentioned Chimera and Bazzite. The experience is totally different with those. Also if you have an Nvidia GPU, you’re probably going to have a bad time regardless. Left that bit out. But I solved that problem by switching to AMD.

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          To be fair, it’s just because windows is the most used and common desktop operating system and the two OSs are different. People would be confused about windows too if the tables were turned.

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              This is true to a large extent. No one goes out of their way to make Linux easy.

              Don’t get me started on GitHub.

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          I love Linux. I’ve moved both my PC and laptop to Linux this year and gotten rid of Windows completely and I’m loving it. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed doesn’t get enough love.

          That being said… Linux is not easy guys. This guy is full of shit. But I would still recommend trying it if you’re an enthusiast with this sort of inclination.

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            Consoles are easy, and I love my PS5 for chilling and playing games, and I love my Linux PC for its power and freedom from corporate bullshit.

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              That you don’t have admin access to. Good for not fucking it up, bad for freedom.

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              Might be based on FreeBSD, but much in the same way as Android is based on Linux, it doesn’t provide you any of the freedoms that a typical Linux distro does.

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                I’m talking about an operating system, not a toy. Playstation is a toy, like a tonka truck, or a tricycle. Your rebuttal is bad.

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                  Cool, but you’re in a gaming community in a post about the Playstation, so I’m not really sure why you’re talking about operating systems and behaving like this when someone talks about the console the post is about.

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                  Sometimes people want to play with a toy and not scream at their OS because of… millions of possible reasons.

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            If I had to read documentation first, I wouldn’t be using Linux. We write software so we can automate things, so we should be able to automate away most of the troublesome parts until we’re just left with a useful device that does its job.

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        Bazzite is the answer you search for. Learn the terminal & eventually get a grasp on why atomic distros are cool and you’ll be okay. I was on windows for years & when I learned the terminal for that it was like I was giving God powers.

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          The only thing I’m trying to install linux on is my Raspberry Pi. Upon googling Bazzite, it doesn’t seem to support Raspberry Pi.

          Also, I’ve been trying to learn terminal off and on for 15ish years, with no luck. I’ve been trying to get the fan to work, unsucsessfully on my raspberry pi, for 4 years now. Apperently I have to compile some code…I don’t know what that means…

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            Worst case scenario you can take it apart & put it back together to maybe find a defective part. Terminal is tricky because of the language barrier. It’s all just coding with extra steps which isn’t meant to dumb it down.

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            What the fuck are you on about? I just build a Raspberry Pi based console running RetroPie with a custom cooler, fan, and power button with LED indicator. Check out my recent posts to 3D printing.

            I compiled nothing but RetroPie since the Pi 5 isn’t officially supported but it was dirt simple to do. Install Raspbian, clone RetroPie repo, run install script, press enter on the first option, wait a few hours.

            Once again, you just suck at computing. Especially if after 15 years you still can’t Bash. In 15 years I built a career as a senior linux engineer.

            The Super Notendo – https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22628904

            I just taught myself parametric CAD including both solid body and surface modeling in 3 months.

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              So you’re stating on this post that you understand coding, and know how to compile. You’re trying to “insult” me by saying I suck at computing.

              Except I’m not insulted. You know who else sucks at it? EVERYBODY. It’s like an auto mechanic trying to insult you for knowing how to change a muffler, and how it’s so easy.

              I don’t know how to change a muffler. I just want to drive the car. Just like everybody else.

              I just want to push a button, have my fan work, and play retro games. I don’t want to have to bash in terminal. I don’t want to compile a program. I just want to play video games.

              And you know who else just wants it to work with no programming knowledge needed? EVERYBODY.

              THAT is the reason that after 30+ years linux is at an all time high user base with less than 5% of the market, despite Apple being expensive as hell in a tough ecconomy, and Windows being universally agreed on as being dog shit. People STILL don’t want to switch to linjx because NOBODY understands it or wants to deal with it.

              They’d rather deal with Windows 11 spying on your screen, or paying an assload for a mac than deal with linux.

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        You’re still beholden to the hardware manufacturers whether you buy a PC or a shitty console but at least with a PC you have choices and you’re spreading your corporate money out to those you feel worth it instead of motherfucking freedom-hating Sony.

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      PS5 pro is a waste of money, but also lots of people don’t want a PC to play games. Two things can be true at the same time!

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      Or if you want something more turnkey, a Steam Deck. Want more flexibility? Put Bazzite on it.

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    Nobody wants to pay $310 ($80 for a disc drive, $30 for a stand) more for a machine that looks better if you pause the game and squint hard.

    Here’s a good example:

    Can’t see it? The PS5 Pro has added reflections on Venom’s back and right shoulder. The texture on the door of the Jeep is marginally improved.

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    This happened with the ps3, the chief at playstation at the time said we wouldnt be able to find them at retail. My friends and I made some fun snapping pics of them sitting on shelves.

    We were way into the game news scene at the time.

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      The PS3 also had damn few games to play at launch. If it wasn’t for Sony’s decision to ship it with a BD-ROM drive it probably would have been a total flop. Home theater nerds saved the PS3.

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        And I’m thankful for that because, when the promotion was right, I bought one. Warhawk, MAG, Demons souls and KZ2. What a great generation of games.

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    Even though nobody from the government wants to admit it, the proof is in the pudding. North America is in a recession. People don’t have $700 extra + the cost of the disc drive and stand, to throw down on a console that’s only marginally better than the same console that’s been out for 5 years now.

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      Curious to how the lone downvoter views this topic. They disagree with me apparently, but on what point? The fact that people don’t want to spend $700+ on a marginal upgrade? Do they though? The fact that we’re in a recession? We are though. They bought a PS5 Pro and are actively experiencing buyer’s remorse so they have to chime in on every PS5 Pro post with a symbolic “nuh uh”? Probably.

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      Man we don’t even get Ridge Racer anymore, it’s why the generations just haven’t been the same.

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      Ps5 pro, just got released. But it’s entirely too expensive for what its offering over base ps5, doesn’t have a disc reader, and while I love my base model there really aren’t that many games taking advantage of it so having to pay more for remastered last gen games doesn’t feel like a good value for most folks I’d imagine.