This is not a zero sum game. there’s no competition. We can deal with both problems, we don’t have to pick a side.
Well yes, and the starting point is by dismissing the myth that the double standards are not applied to everyone. They are applied differently, but it is not something that only affects one group of people.
Is that really a myth? Because it feels like the only time this point is brought up is to “dispel the myth”, not the myth itself which I frankly can’t recall having ever heard.
My theory is that it’s actually a mix of angry dudes feeling excluded because they weren’t explicitly included by women talking about their own struggles, and of the fact that men just generally don’t talk about their struggles. So the coverage feels disproportional and the only time the subject gets brought up it’s because some angry misogynist managed to weave it into an “us vs them” discourse.
Men’s mental health is a huge conversation to have but it’s extremely disheartening that in the mainstream conversation it always pops up through misogyny.
So in the spirit of actually doing something about men’s mental health, here’s some actual discourse on the subjectLemmy needs an r/menslib equivalent
I’m convinced the current influencer body standard for women (huge asses, giant lips, etc) was some joke by plastic surgeons and they just rolled with it
Apparently anyone can become a plastic surgeon because I’d never get any sleep if I made people look like that.
give me a syringe and a bike pump
Apparently no one is allowed to have body hair.
What’s weird is that hairy chests were considered the sexy style in the 70’s and 80’s, and then it suddenly changed. I blame Arnold.
Looking at what the young uns are wearing these days (and the resurgence of mullets), I would put money on chest hair coming back within the next decade.
I had a friend who shaved his chest and legs in the 00’s and it always seemed so weird. This was before the mainstream enlightenment, so he got called “gay” a lot. That’s kind of an odd reaction to it though, since he was doing it to attract women.
Women like femboys more than men
He definitely wasn’t a femboy. He was a very masculine male. He just shaved his chest and legs. He used to be a Chip N Dale’s dancer when he was younger, so I guess the shaving behavior probably came from those days.
It’s gonna have come and went before the decade has passed
Cavill almost always has chest hair. The only time I can recall seeing him without chest and stomach hair is in The Tudors.
Because IT’S ILLEGAL!
/s
This feels like “I’m 14 and this is deep” content.
It’s obvious that all Hollywood, social media and advertising models are not the average person. Are there really people that think men would be exempt from this? I doubt many.
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Me, spending 6 months fighting with (and losing to) body dysmorphia but not knowing what it was, since I’m a man and no one told me:
abandon all hope ye who enter this comment section
Robert Pattinson’s physique as Batman was criticised by the mainstream (mostly by incels) as not being ripped and is skinny, even though experts say his body in “The Batman” is the most realistic built most men would be able to achieve.
Sure well defined muscles are aesthetically pleasing, but not nessa to be considered hot by most of the people you’ll date
Very true, in my experience lots of women like the idea of strength from big muscles but don’t really care to see the striated muscle fibers in a cut look. Hell some are turned off by the vasculature of my hands.
EDIT: Guys in comic books are ripped for the dudes reading them. I imagine the same is true for movie stars.
Oh everyone I know would love to date that. They just wouldn’t love the time and commitment required to build and maintain that.
Yeah I’m sure many of us would if it was just a pill you took lol
Nessa? We channelling Jar Jar Binks now? (All in good fun, OP)
Haha meesa see what you mean. An old friend used to say it and I just like the sound of it
You really think so?
Varies by person but yeah. Look at all the bears and bookish nerds that people fawn over
In case anyone is hoping to achieve the left side of the picture remember every one of the is on PEDs
Idris Elba lookin skinny compared to the rest of them. Also, I don’t think that’s actually Ben Shapiro bottom right lmao.
Sorry to link to that place but here: Hugh Jackman on mens’ magazines vs womens’.
Do women not buy muscle and fitness and that’s why it’s a “men’s” magazine?
But aquaman is from the water.
You don’t have to live up to Hollywood standards, you just have to stop holding everyone else up to Hollywood standards. Just look at day time talk shows, those people have no problem finding a partner, and the only reason they end up on those shows is because they have no sense of shame.
I’ve gone longer than 3 days without water and I look nothing like those guys. Wtf?
You have to cut out the Mountain Dew as well
Have you tried hiring a personal trainer and using ‘supplements’?
how the hell do you go more than 3 days without water? these dudes have staff to make sure they don’t fucking die
Not seeing the issue here, that’s ju5T DAD b0d. /s
Really should be a legal requirement for a normal BMI to appear in media, then they wouldn’t be able load up on steroids
BMI is not a measure of health. It is a statistical tool.
To further illustrate your point, most of the men pictured are likely ‘obese’ by BMI standards
Yes, welcome to the conversation
We aren’t talking about the health of these moviestars on roids, we are talking about the effects they have on viewers’ self image
But that would also eliminate all obese people from the media. Which is like 30%+ of the population.
That would be a side benefit of an otherwise bad idea.
And the massively underweight that women are supposed to aspire to
Whichever way you skew it, unrealistic bodies shouldn’t be there
