Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    74
    arrow-down
    32
    ·
    11 months ago

    Netflix appreciates your support for bigotry and is glad that you will be added to the data that shows that bigotry makes for popular programming. Otherwise, we might not make this sort of thing anymore.

    • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I’ll be pirating this as god intended. That way I can make up my own mind about the content while also delivering one small paper cut to The Man.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        11 months ago

        I don’t really think that changes what I’m saying. I think it is unlikely that Netflix doesn’t take piracy into account when calculating viewership. Because even if those aren’t subscribers, they’re viral marketers and drive up subscriptions because of it. Obviously, they don’t want their programming to be pirated, but I think it would be foolish of them to not fold those into overall viewership numbers. I would say the same thing about Max and The Last of Us or Disney and The Mandalorian.

        • AllOfMe28@lemmyhub.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          11 months ago

          Your views on piracy and Netflix are so outdated. Modern day piracy is not transparent because most people abandoned torrenting which is how netflix got their numbers originally. There is nothing for them to gauge audience on, no seeders no peers. Today pirate sites are huge money makers. They have their own apps and ecosystems with quality and services better than paid services with highly sophisticated CDNs that make use of temporary domains to rotate the DNS of the players so they can’t be caught.

          All you do is talk out of your ass

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        41
        arrow-down
        16
        ·
        11 months ago

        Yes, you’ve already made your pro-bigotry stance known above. I’m just not sure why you think it’s something to be proud of.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            9
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            What?

            EDIT: While you’re all downvoting me, could one of you take the time to please tell me what the person I responded to meant by “have a day off?” I honestly don’t know what that is supposed to mean.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                8
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                11 months ago

                Did you find Rosanne’s latest comedy special to be a gut-buster or were you a wet blanket who didn’t watch it and laugh at her hilarious jokes?

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    ·
                    11 months ago

                    I see, so “go laugh at a joke ya wet blanket” only applies to funny jokes.

                    So not unfunny jokes like: “My pronouns are, kiss my ass.” from Roseanne’s special…

                    But funny jokes like: “I wrote a play. I did. Cause I know that gays love plays. It’s a very sad play, but it’s moving. It’s about a Black transgender woman whose pronoun is, sadly, n*****.” from Chapelle’s special.

        • deagle2008@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          24
          ·
          11 months ago

          I’m proud because I’m going to watch it twice. The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny. If someone were to “punch down” on any of those ppl I have and will continue to to fight for them. It’s funny that you, I, and others in the thread are on the same side of the larger issue only outside of the context of comedy.

          There’s no bigotry here. I know how to take a joke and some of the “targets” of his joke know how to take one as well. The real victims here are the persons who cannot take a joke. Dave will continue to attack you guys indiscriminately.

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            The first time with my trans friend. Both her and I find the topic of trans rights and freedom to exist very serious but we also know when to turn it off and enjoy a comedy show. I’ll probably watch it again with my wheelchair bound nephew simply because he finds it’s funny.

            Uh-huh. And your mother is a Navajo and your best friend is both Jewish and Tibetan.

      • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        24
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        11 months ago

        Just not disabled and trans people, apparently. Good job, you. You’re so supportive of people whose lives are hard enough without some cunt obsessing over them so he can “punch down” at them. Have a fucking cookie 🍪

            • doublejay1999@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              39
              ·
              edit-2
              11 months ago

              Wells that’s a bit creepy of you…. But I think most people can tell the difference between being attacked (in this case, supporting the murder of gays) and being the subject of a joke ?

              Maybe not, maybe that’s the problem, right ?

              You’re attempting to compare a comedian telling jokes, to an elected official advocating murder. That’s always going to be a difficult thing to do.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                30
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                11 months ago

                I know. Having a memory of something that happened a few days ago and an ability to use a search function sure is creepy.

                Also, the ‘being attacked’ you are talking about is someone saying, “Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked.”

                Which… I don’t know… seems a whole lot less offensive than using multiple Netflix specials to repeatedly demean trans people.

                But you’re right, “Another ancient white guy. Color me shocked.” That’s just beyond the pale. What a vicious, heard-hearted, racist attack!

              • phillaholic@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                11 months ago

                He’s not telling jokes. He’s repeatedly making statements that trans women aren’t real women. The very same statements that are being legislated around the country denying trans people the right to use bathrooms, participate in sports, receive necessary healthcare, have parental rights, etc. it would be like a white comic in the 40s “joking” about black people using their own bathrooms or water fountains.

          • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            11 months ago

            Given this is this comedian’s 2nd (or 3rd?) netflix special in a row where he goes after trans people, I’m not sure who’s actually got the obsession.

                  • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    8
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    11 months ago

                    Netflix Exec 1: “We need a new way of getting subscribers”

                    Netflix Exec 2: “How about this - we wait for a comedian to say something really awful, then, when ordinary people are appalled by what they said, we get the comedian to start shrieking about being cancelled…”

                    NE1: “We’re cancelling them?”

                    NE2: “That’s the thing - nobody is! But as we all know, these comedians core audience are people who have a Pavlovian response to the word ‘cancel’ and they’re somehow even less able than they already were to think coherently…so we wait, for the ‘controversy (lol)’ to really ramp up, then give the comedian a 2 hour special. It’ll only cost us a few million but the new subscriber numbers amongst the gammon population will far exceed that figure!”

                    NE1: “Brilliant! But wait…aren’t we going to look like shitty people?”

                    NE2: “Possibly, but ten years from now we can produce a documentary series about the real world affect on people these specials had - we can act all contrite, the comedians can, I dunno, cry a bit maybe? Net result - more money!”