• bobthened@feddit.uk
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    11 months ago

    At the same time Israel was releasing Palestinian “prisoners” (largely children and largely imprisoned for petty crimes like throwing stones) they were capturing and imprisoning from the West Bank (where there is no Hamas) roughly the same number of people as they were releasing in Gaza.

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      Throwing a stone is not a petty crime, it’s called assault with a deadly weapon

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        If you’re a crowd who throws 100 of them, perhaps. Not one little boy, throwing a single stone. Don’t be ridiculous.

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          When people say children, it includes people who are 16 years old.

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            a grape can be a deadly weapon under the right circumstances. that doesn’t mean it is one.

            you’re still being ridiculous.

            Head trauma is no joke is.

            yet you’re not dead. I rest my case.

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          I don’t know, why don’t you ask Hamas, since they are the experts in killing children

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            Suddenly you’re all bashful about slapping labels on stuff?

            It’s OK - we can try another - what do you call a group that’s killed orders of magnitude more children than the “experts in killing children”?

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              Also experts in killing children. Who said either of the sides is blameless?

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                It’s implied in you running straight past Israel’s actions to focus on condemnation of Palestinians comparatively minor actions - or is there another explanation?

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            At this point, Israel has killed far more children in this war than Hamas. So I’d say they’re both experts, but Israel is the one with more experience.

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        Arresting kids for throwing rocks is petty enough as it. Labeling their actions as assault with a deadly weapon before you arrest them is just absurd.

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          How is it petty? It’s actually physically dangerous to people.

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        Has there ever been evidence of the tunnels?

        I know IDF put out some pictures of a standard underground water tank, and a basement that Israel built when they were running the hospital…

        But I’ve never seen actual evidence of “terrorist tunnels” the IDF claims is everywhere.

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          Ha! Hamas actually took the press to visit them. They find them every day. They found two dead hostages in one yesterday. I don’t know what evidence you need.

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            I don’t know what evidence you need

            Something more than a social media comment…

            You know, like a non biased source? Something from an international media organization not just a press release from the country making the claim?

            Pretty standard stuff really

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                Yep, as much time as I spent googling if bigfoot was real.

                But just like with Bigfoot, if you want to say something is true, it’s a lot easier for you to provide a non biased source backing it up than for anyone else to check every link online to make sure there isn’t proof of Bigfoot somewhere.

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                  Then I suggest you spend $735 for a plane ticket to Cairo. $25 for a bus to Rafah. Probably a hundred to get yourself into Palestine. Hitch a ride to Gaza and see for yourself. Because there is no amount of evidence you can be shown that would convince you.

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                I mean, if you are here making a claim then it’s your responsibility to come up with evidence to support it.

                Telling someone to go research your claim is bad Internet etiquette.

                If you don’t feel like doing that, fine, then just don’t engage.

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                  I’m not going to chase my tail for you guys who will just reject anything you see.

                  sorry about that,

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            You just seem like a jerk with your little quips about a serious human tragedy. “Go Isreal!!” is not the look you think it is.

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              Ah,…I was answering a question in a perfectly decent way.

              You’re a good one to talk about little quips. “Go Hamas!!” is not the look you think it is.

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                That’s a false dichotomy. I’m not “pro Hamas” but I can recognize the humanity of Palestinians, as well as the structural role Israel has chosen that has led us to where we currently are.

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    It’s almost like they don’t want a ceasefire or peace 🤔.

    There doesn’t seem to be an end game for Hamas except dragging out the war in the most populous areas possible to maximise Palestinian casualties.

    The poor Palestinians, the poor Israelis, poor hostages 😞.

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    11 months ago

    I’m not sure either roarty trusts the other enough for negotiations to be worthwhile. Not much point here.