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i guess he’s not a very good schwimmer
First lemmy angry upvote. Get my praise and fuck off.
I was hoping that any form of “upvoted” was something we’d be leaving behind on Reddit.
Welcome to the new reddit. Using voyager it even looks like reddit.
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I’m not opposed to the terms upvote and downvote.
I’m opposed to any variation of the comment “I upvoted this!” It adds literally nothing to the conversation, if you liked a post but have nothing to add, then upvote it and then move on like everyone else.
OH. MY. GAWD.
Thanks! Now I am in trouble for refusing to tell my family what I laughed at…
Just told this at the bar. Had everyone rolling
Rest in peace, Matthew. Like many, I’ve been concerned about him for years. This is terrible news.
Same. Was always hoping to see him make a comeback. Damn shame :\
I always liked him as an actor. His role on West Wing is my favorite.
He looked 10-20 years older than he should be in the reunion.
Damn, that’s way too young.
Could he be any more dead?
^im sorry^
Samesies.
I gotta be honest, this is the first thing that came to my mind when I read he had passed away.
Rest in peace.
Is it true he drowned in his jacuzzi? Really hard to believe
Stroke or heart attack (or shooting up after a long tolerance break) alone in a body of water has an immediate cause of death of drowning.
The cause of the immediate cause of death isn’t known until autopsy.
Says it was after he was playing pickleball, so I’m guessing heart attack.
Heart attacks, if you mean infarctions, will still be quite rare in 50s, especially in someone who is able to play pickleball. I would also imagine his doctor would be unlikely to have missed signs of coronary artery disease.
I would guess it is more likely that he simply passed out for one reason or another since it was the middle of the night, he had played sports, potentially sleepy dehydrated and maybe even under the influence.
He’s had a long history of drug abuse as well though, which can have some pretty bad long term effects.
He could develop toxic cardiomyopathy, but it is not that acute, and while it can in late stages cause dangerous arrhythmias, which some would conflate under “heart attacks”, a cardiomyopathy that advanced would also mean he is out of breath climbing up a flight of stairs, so probably no pickleball.
Pickleball
Hot Tubs feel great, but they wreak havoc on the circulatory system.
Spike your blood pressure something fierce.
Googled it, hot tubs temporarily lower blood pressure.
Soaking in a bathtub or basking in a sauna can be a pleasant way to relax. Done on a regular basis, both habits may also help prevent heart attacks and strokes, according to several studies.
“The high temperatures in a warm tub or sauna cause your blood vessels to dilate, which lowers blood pressure,” says Dr. Adolph Hutter, professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School. The volume of blood your heart pumps will also rise, especially in a hot tub. That’s a result of the pressure of the water on the body, which increases the heart’s workload, he explains.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/hot-baths-and-saunas-beneficial-for-your-heart
Dr. Adolph Hutter.
I’m guessing that man has an immaculate signature that makes sure it’s super clear that there are two t’s and no l’s in his last name.
Also, shaves everyday.
Or his handwriting is so bad that his signature is a completely indecipherable squiggle. Seeing as he’s a doctor that seems more likely.
So actually comprehending this, if that is what I’m doing, the heat is causing your body to do what it does when your blood pressure is spiking, but since you are in a body of water, the weight of the water is changing the atmospheric pressure on the the body, and nets to lower blood pressure.
Heat is making the heart pump harder, and the blood move faster, but the atmospheric pressure is dilating the blood cells, resulting in net lower PB.
Kinda sounds like “wreaking havoc on the circulatory system”. Same as rigorous exercise weeks havoc on the circulatory system.
Overdo stress on the circulatory system, get heart attack or stroke.
Pressure would play little role here, generally it would increas peripheral resistance as well as pressure inside the chest cavity, prompting the heart to work harder. However I doubt at a regular water immersion in a hot tub causes a noticeable effect.
Then heat causes your blood vessels to dilate in an attempt to dump the heat outside, because you are in a hottub this will end up warming your core, which will also dilate more blood vessels inside as well as raising your resting heart rate.
The net effect is slightly faster heart rate (still usually under 100, so not even in light excercise teritory yet, more like walking teritory) with a lower blood pressure.
None of this is close to wrecking havoc, yet the initial drop from getting in quickly can be fast enough, that with a high enough vagal tone (i.e perfect storm of other situations - tired, dehydrated, intoxicated, chronically tired or w/e) you could temporarily pass out. Analogous to someone passing out from getting up too quickly.
lemmy le downvoteddit eeheee
But that guy sounded so confident, he even added a superlative
Sounds like it’s not as simple as I thought it was.
Pretty sure I’m still pretty accurate on the “wreaks havoc” part.
You are not
Okay hot tub salesman.
Indeed, hot baths are so harmful to your health, which is one of the reasons why the Japanese have one of the shortest lifespans on the planet - it’s because of those daily hot baths and onsen that they partake in.
What a dipshit argument.
Ya, if you run 5 miles a day every day, you’re gonna be in great shape.
If you snort mountains of coke and eat cake without any exercise for 20 years and then force yourself to run for 5 miles, you’re going to blow your heart out.
Recent studies say for most people, a half hour in the hot tub is the equivelent of a half hour run. It is intense on the circulatory system.
If you are saying Mathew Perry had the diet and physical activity level, and hence the circulatory system of a 54 year old Japanese man, then youvare a dipshit.
If I recall my terms right it’s vasogenic shock. Essentially pipes without enough fluid and thus not enough pressure make the pump go wonky… so, yea, havoc wreaked. I’d say you’re accurate there.
Vasogenic shock is caused generally by severe disregulation in the body - anaphylaxis, sepsis, lactic acidosis.
What could have occured is a vasovagal syncope, where a sudden transient drop in blood pressure causes someone to lose consciousness temporarily. In this case, being tired, sleepy and getting quickly into a hottub, or sitting in it for a bit and then getting up suddenly could do the trick.
They are saying no drugs or alcohol involved, so I’m guessing a few hours of strenuous exercise followed by jacuzzi = a heart attack while in the jacuzzi alone leading to drowning as the immediate cause of death, but triggered by the heart attack.
Well I’m never getting in a hot tub again
I’m just going to avoid the strenuous exercise part.
He could have just got drunk and passed out. Mix in a sleep aid and it doesn’t seem unlikely.
It was in the am though.
He could have been going all night.
That’s what’s being reported
Apparently his jacuzzi was massive, like the size of a small swimming pool.
I have a question for native english speakers. I’ve read the TMZ article and they keep using the ellipses aka the “dot dot dot” (…). Why is that? It’s usually used when skipping words inside quotations, but it does not seem to be the case here. They seem to be used instead of commas. Anyone can explain why?
Even as a native English speaker that doesn’t make any sense.
Trash news sources have trash grammar. Go figure.
It’s also used for dramatic pause, suspense, or as a setup for a punchline, which may be the case for the title. Other punctuation is probably more appropriate, but oftentimes doesn’t convey the desired level of pause.
Why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side. Why did the chicken cross the road… To get to the other side.
David Carradine was found dead in Thailand from auto erotic asphyxiation.
David Carradine was found dead in Thailand… From auto erotic asphyxiation
People are saying AI but I believe it’s more of a template. When a celebrity dies the first article out has a huge advantage for getting clicks. They might’ve quickly added details to the template and posted without deleting the ellipses.
Looking at other articles, it looks like abusing the ellipses is something they do frequently
It’s definitely not normal. Ellipses can be used for pausing too. But you are right the kinds of pauses in this article requires, commas would suffice. Almost makes it seem jokey and disrespectful to read it out with the ellipses pauses.
That’s long been TMZ style. Like drudge report.
Now that I think about it, it’s actually my first time reading a TMZ piece. Looking at other articles, it does seem to be a thing they do pretty frequently. Weird!
Might be an AI generated article
This is an odd article. Reads like it was written by AI.
The ellipses usage is definitely strange.
I would say you could use it as a pause for thought, or to imply to the reader to draw their own conclusion, or that there is additional unwritten information left up to the reader to deduce or use their imagination.
It certainly feels weird the way they use it in this article.
Yes, it’s pretty strange…
Odd even…
The Courier has finally caught up with Benny. Rest in peace.
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Aw man. Even the main Seinfeld cast is still around.
Shows what substance abuse does I guess. RIP
Never bathe alone.
united states internal news …
Though TBH i don’t understand what qualifies as “world news” here. Lemmy is not american
The TV series Friends was enjoyed by more than just the US.
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Wealthy man dies in his pool sized Jacuzzi. Entire world expected to be sad.
Kids living in abject poverty are starved and made to drink salty water before being bombed into atoms. World expected to be largely indifferent.
News at 11.
Yes other people are suffering, but can we just let people care about things? My dad read Perry’s book and felt real emotional attachment to the man, through both their struggles with addiction and mental health. He was completely devastated when we heard about this. Yes there is worse shit to talk about in this world, but Mathew Perry meant a lot to some people, in his acting career and otherwise.
You can only care about one thing at a time!
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Why did his parent drown him?
