In wake of the US elections I have been skimming the politics subreddit to see where American libs are at currently and as usual it’s pretty funny
Who are these mythical “voters” for whom left wing policy won’t fly? Granted, I haven’t met a ton of Americans, but I’m pretty sure most of them want better quality of life, not worse. I don’t think the policies are the problem.
And funny how this is always a problem in the US, “voters” need every political party to be going as far right as possible or else they are completely unlikable somehow. They’ve never looked at a near universally liked leftist policy and gone “I guess we should swing further left to win more votes.” only rightward movement is possible.
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“They don’t want power” as new liberal rhetoric shows their ignorance of why people go to the left.
And that’s fucking rich coming from libs.
I will believe libs when they say they have a shot in abolishing the electoral college. This will all but guarantee a democrat president 75% of the time and Republicans will be mostly irrelevant at the national level. So, since “they don’t want power, they want to critique power” is a criticism liberals have of the left, I trust they will use their power to help them win more often? Because dems, if you don’t do this, not only are you putting minorities you claim to support at risk, the environment you claim to support at risk, but you’re also putting your party at risk by not doing this.
And just like that, you can expect libs to bust out the faux-zen philosophy about how they in their great humility, will not stoop to the level of chuds.
The communist is both a pathologically power-seeking tyrant and an edge-seeking teenage dilettante unconcerned with the realities of power
The enemy is both an existential cunning threat and a bumbling failure that will cause it’s own self-destruction.
I mean, fascists actually are this.
They’re a one-trick pony with charisma. They can tell people what they want to hear, get them elected and lead to many people dying, but fuck up almost everything else and can’t do much beyond use their charms to get people to eat shit and like it.
This is extremely likely in the next few years. Any new (D) politician that wants to be taken seriously will join DSA as a token way to prove it. Actually getting a DSA endorsement or taking over a chapter’s politics however is more difficult, however, because it requires libs to actually show up to a meeting and speak. Liberals tend to not have any real experience with democratic forums. But it has been done in NYC by electoral careerists.
The playbook is to move all voting to be online and “asynchronous”. The electoralists then use their phonebanking experience to whip votes for their side from “paper” members who have little idea what the vote is about. This effectively replaces democratic forums with liberal mass media.
But it has been done in NYC
I hate to break it to you but with that failure to censure/purge the mayor elect of LA I think the problem goes beyond NYC
I didn’t say it hasn’t been repeated but LA could also be under a different pattern.
Oh no I hope the DSA has enough discipline to not become the new “Progressive” caucus that every reich wing corporate dem joins.
It would be infinitely easier for libs to join DSA and keep them lib than for anyone to DSA’s left to join and pull them to the left. DSA is designed to stay lib and we see with their own recent decision to not revoke the new mayor of LA’s membership despite their own rules saying that should have happened. They can not follow their own rules if they are too progressive, they have to ignore them to stay lib
What’s the point of having power if you are still going to enact the same liberal policies? Getting associated with the capitalist decay in the mind of an average American, as if theirs anticommunism wasn’t enough already?
Libs literally cannot imagine anything except the status quo. And any deviations away from it are obviously bad and scary and so they’ll fight tooth and nail to never change. Of course they always seem amenable to gradually letting fascists gain power and enact their policies. Weird huh?
attention Eglin AFB and/or Langley:
it would personally make me very mad if you spent time, resources, and sizable amounts of money on doing entryism into the DSA. Please do not do that. Also, make sure you do not, under any circumstances, donate funds to the party or to endorsed/associated mutual aid actions to give your subterfuge an air of legitimacy. that would be terrible
