One of the best feelings for both parties

  • DeadDigger@lemmy.zip
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    15 days ago

    To be honest everyone has emotional triggers like this. For example comparing me with my father makes me very angry.

    However I kinda think it is a bit wrong to have someone in a very emotional dependant state, which is also not prior discussed as far as I see, perform sexual acts. For me this is a consent Problem.

    • tb_@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      My interpretation is that the sexual act was already ongoing when the comment was made.

      If they were just, I dunno, hanging out on the couch ans went from that, to the comment, to cumming, that would be a little weird, yeah. But I really don’t think that’s the case.

      Whether it makes sense to make emotionally sensitive remarks during such acts, I mean, such acts are inherently emotional. And I would assume one has the good sense to know in which ways they can push/explore a little and in which ways they really should not.

      • DeadDigger@lemmy.zip
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        14 days ago

        Well this is a question of ethics. Basically this is where you are on the scale between: "Would you stop if your partner gets unresponsive? Most ppl would I guess.

        Would you stop when your partner gets goosebumps? Most ppl won’t."

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        “Would you play with an intoxicated partner?”

        Here they stated that the sub was extremely vulnerable. When you are vulnerable you are suggestable. If you are very vulnerable you are very suggestable. And if you are suggestable you may don’t use your safe word even if you want to. This is also a part of consent. When you start a session you are consenting to a degree to this. (This is Position agnostic btw)

        If someone gets extremely vulnerable unexpectedly during a session you get to the spectrum above. If you play without consent with intoxicated ppl this will not matter for you, but also you are already kinda a bad person.

        On the spectrum above you have different states of ecstasy at the highest discribed (assuming they are physically fine) they are unable to revoke their consent. In fact they will get more and more unable to revoke their consent. And this is also fine because to a degree they consented to it.

        When you stop to respond or are unable to safeword you are into CNC territory. If you have direct or indirect consent that’s fine. I will not advocate against CNC play because, like the situation in the op, it is hot for a lot of ppl. For example with my wife I would also keep going if they are unresponsive because I know their limits pretty well and we discussed it.

        The OP does not mention consent. To the contrary it even suggests that they are still in a starting phase and thatneither they not their sub did expect this situation.

    • Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      15 days ago

      How do you know it wasn’t discussed beforehand? It’s entirely possible finding triggers like this was explicitly one of the goals of their play.

    • Mistakes@sopuli.xyzOP
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      15 days ago

      I can see the argument, but exploration is part of the journey. I think in this case, intent does matter quite a bit, and it’s clear to me at least that the OP had good intentions.

    • Mistakes@sopuli.xyzOP
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      15 days ago

      Honestly, everyone should have the opportunity to play with a competent pleasure Dom at some point.

  • maria ~@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    hm huh mhm yeah huh aha hm yeah mhm I see ah aha mhm yea.

    wonderful. absolutely one if the best feelings for both parties. I’m noticing that I mentioned like - most of this on the matrix server thing, besides the… adult bit. very wonderful

    EDIT:

    okay I thought about this a bit more. I think saying “you are safe with me” wouldn’t actually make me feel safe. it would feel a bit performative and would have to be backed up by actions.

    on another note, the second post below it kinda breaks it for me. it distracts from the fantasy to the hard truth of being lonely. it leaves me with less than what I entered with.

  • CrimeIsLegalNow@ani.social
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    14 days ago

    My God you perverts need to stop fetishizing emotional support just because you don’t get either it or enough sex.

    Actually now that I said that I understand the process.