Something I’ve been rolling over in my head. The typical stereotype is that young people are all tech savvy and up on the latest tech, while older people are bad with technology and yearn for a time without all the new gizmos and gadgets. However in my personal life I’ve found it to be really quite the opposite lately. Older people, especially baby boomers, while still bad with technology, are really quite into new tech, AI especially. While younger people are more likely to criticize new tech ime, even that tech that many of them grew up with, such as social media. Even the internet in general. When pressed most young people I know will acknowledge the benefits of the internet, but nonetheless there is the sentiment that it’s been injurious to their lives. Wondering if this generation divide pitting young anti-tech people against older pro-tech people is familiar to anybody.
What prompted this post was a discussion with my mom. I have to get a new car and I was going on about how I’m gonna need to find a car without that big ass iPad screen and hopefully some buttons, even if only for volume. She says idk what your problem is I have that [ipad screen] in my car and I love it. To me hating those iPad screens in cars is a pretty common sentiment among my peers and I realized this is a very common situation - my mom being excited about this sort of newer tech and myself and other younger people I know having the complete opposite stance
AI successfully obfuscates the scary technology behind enough layers of scams and customer service voice that it appeals to boomers. The youth have grown up in a world where if a stranger is being nice to them, it’s probably a scam, so they’re naturally suspicious of the new technology.
Also much easier to be pro-AI, the thing the media is saying will replace all jobs within the next few years when you’re already retired, much harder to be pro-the thing that will make you permanently unemployable when you’re just entering the workforce.
I have a foot in both camps. On the one hand I do like technology; I’m a tool maker and I like building stuff that’s useful to others. What I don’t like is when technology exploits people or actively gets in their way from being useful.
To zoom in on your question, I think GenZ (and younger Millenials) are the first generation to see all of this technological progress systematically turned against them. If you look at individual technological progress, especially as it’s presented in propaganda, it was taken as a given that technology would make life easier and more convenient for consumers. This largely held from World War II until fairly recently. In the 90s and into the 00s there was a sense of techno-optimism where information wants to be free and we should build on-ramps to the information superhighway[1]. It came at a time when the Internet was small, connections were slow, and most work was still centered around the individual’s computer. This meant central control was very difficult to establish. It’s hard to imagine now, but we used to think the Internet was infinite, and the best you could do was have your own island of a website that could talk to other websites.
All of this began to change as networks became faster and online advertising took off. This is the world many younger people grew up in. During the 2010s Silicon Valley discovered that the internet was in fact not infinite. Facebook crossed 1 billion users in 2012 and it seemed like you could actually take over the internet. At the same time post-2008 bailout money and Zero interest-rate policy meant that money was firehosed at Silicon Valley[2]. You also had the mainstreaming of smartphones that put massive amounts of data in the hands of advertisers as long as you installed an app[3]. All the incentives aligned against users and towards investors and companies. During this time computers slipped into just about everything too. Back in the 90s/00s, if something wonky happened on your computer[4] it was just the machine in the Den corner. Now computers are everywhere, so broken computers are everywhere now! Its very tiring interacting with yet another shitty touchscreen when knobs worked for 50 years without problems.
Battling with surveillance while fighting with your electronics is exhausting. I see why kids these days want to chuck them all into the river, and I don’t blame them.
The California Ideology is still an incisive critique of the attitudes back then. The essay is well worth the read. ↩︎
To put this in perspective, it used to be special if your company crossed $1 billion in valuation. It was practically unheard of if your company was acquired for $1+ billion. Now? It’s just another Tuesday. ↩︎
Smartphones are also designed to priviledge consumption over creation, which is perfect for advertising, but that’s another rant… ↩︎
and boy howdy were computers busted back then!! ↩︎
Seems like there was just a specific time period (maybe 40 years) where technology was in its infancy at the same time as us, and we grew up at the same time as the industry.
Now everything is mindless touch screens and nobody learns the underlying computing concepts we had to learn through use. We learned to keep track of things and how computers actually work. None of that is explained by using the computer anymore (especially if you’re just using an iPad or Chromebook), so we’re the only generational cohort who got to teach ourselves the basics of computer science.
Boomers never bothered learning any of this stuff, and now Gen Alphas aren’t able to learn through trial and error. Are children still skeptical of tech, or are they as deluded as our elders?
Yeah idk what the super young think. By “young people” I suppose I’m really referring to the millennial/gen z cohort
Super young (10-12 yo) that I work with are either creeped out, not impressed, or outright scared of Ai, think it’s stupid, and don’t want to have anything to do with it (unless it helps them do their homework).
The boomers who like AI like it because it’s sycophantic, not because it’s useful.
chat gpt. write me a stones song. about owning jetski dealership.
Recently we had neighbors over who are in their 60s and they would constantly talk to the Google voice assistant to look shit up and it didn’t work correctly a single time. Every single time the keyword got mangled by the voice recognition and replaced by a similar sounding word.
Not sure about savvy but they seem to like it.
any company that puts a touch screen in a car should be literally nuked
Boomers invest in tech, anyone younger than a boomer is exploited by boomers via tech. It’s the boomergeoisie.
old people don’t like to (and largely cannot) learn and want to be more convenienced, searching appropriate meme on the interwebs to express emotion is hard, especially if your memory gone, but you can say grok, make meme and be done with it.
same for ipad cars, instead of learning myriad of knobs, it’s same interface as amazon browsing machine at home
Older people, especially baby boomers, while still bad with technology, are really quite into new tech, AI especially.
Being easily fooled by and addicted to the brave new world skinner box slop machine isn’t quite my idea of what tech savvy means.
and none of this accounts for the last decade’s rise in dark patterns before AI.
Idk what tech savvy actually means. They’re still bad with technology. But what I means is a lot of older seem just more excited about modern tech innovations, at least in this sort of consumer sphere, than younger people who just seem overall more pessimistic about even tech that they grew up with.
Boomers dont like tech, they like shiny toys they cand bend to their will
Savvy is not the right word for what’s happening here. The young are still more savvy which is why they have learned to view tech “innovation” with suspicion where older people are not yet wise to the scam. If you’ve lived most of your adult life in the post 08 era of shrinking pie, enshitification, and race to the bottom then it seems obvious and natural that any benefit of technological improvement will be monopolized by rich sex cultists in silicon valley while we experience them mainly as new ways for porky to take from and impose on us. Boomers are still high from the concessions made to appease would be communists almost a hundred years ago. It gave them the mistaken impression that the game was more than zero sum.
I agree I think there’s been some confusion. My point was not that actually old people are more tech savvy/knowledgeable than young people. My point was to contrast the stereotype of young “the future is now old man” tech adopters vs old people stuck in the past clinging to archaic tech with my more often observed reality where young people seem more likely to hold “boomer” attitudes towards newer consumer tech while old people are more likely to be uncritically into it. I agree though it’s ironically because young people actually understand the tech more. Like that meme of the tech enthusiast with all the latest gadgets vs the tech worker with all analog technology
I agree with you but I do wonder if this is just classic generational fashion.
The boomers love screens, they always will - that was the trendy tech of their era. More screens = better.
Computers are the tech of our era, when they become absracted behind a screen we feel loss while a boomer feels nuetral or good.
Also, millenials take “buttons and knobs” for granted in cars - these “vintage” attributes are abstractions/improvements upon original motor vehicles with manual window cranks and without power steering.
I think what we are discussing is how a new technology is at first managed by proletarians and capitalists but as time progresses more and more of it is harnessed and repurposed by the capitalist class.
Being tech-savvy also means having the knowledge and discernment to reject certain technologies. If you are not tech-savvy you’ll use what’s in front of you.
I think it depends on how you approach technology and what you show young people. One of my kids is almost 4 and has taken to games pretty well. They can navigate a handheld and control a character in a game alright. I also taught them how to use the printer to scan the pictures they draw at care. It was so exciting for them to learn they could press a few buttons and make a machine do something. We also don’t just give our kids phones to look at, and the TV is for communal viewing
Pulling it outta my butt wisdom:
The very young and the very old might have the liberty to view techno-widgets in a positive light. Those in between find those techno-widgets so ingrained in our everyday lives that they become a barrier to getting things done or an extension of being a “worker”.










