• Poutine [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Regardless of the cause of the acceleration, this is an excellent example of why vehicles should be regulated so that they must stop, or at least not exceed some extremely low speed, after an impact is detected. We may not be able to prevent all incidents, but we can at least reduce their severity.

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        Then a vehicle on the highway gets hit by some pebbles in the wrong way and emergency brakes, leading to a huge mass accident.

        Idk, maybe it could help if done properly (haha), but maybe a better start would be to reduce the size of most street monstertrucks nowadays?

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          I believe we are fully capable of programming a sensor that can tell the difference between a 1g pebble and a 50kg body.

          Of course we should also mandate maximum vehicle sizes, maximum vehicle speeds, maximum vehicle weights, and reduce road widths, create modal filters and mazes of one-way streets, create car-free streets, etc, but I never said anything to the contrary. Even if you were to do all of those things, cars could still be used as weapons by those who wish to do so. It’s part of a holistic set of interventions to reduce harm.

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            it’s actually really dangerous a lot of the time to pull over immediately after e.g. a deer strike. lots of rural roads with no shoulder and an unexpected slow or stopped car is a hazard to anyone else, and to you if you get out of your car to look at the damage.

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            My thought was of hitting a deer or minor accident. You want to be able to move to the shoulder or drive to a safe place to stop.

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            If thats the sole function, sure. But i heavily doubt that cramming more and more and more “safety” features helps all that much. I don’t per se disagree with you but it irks me, a lot, if a car moves the steering wheel for me, so i am generally rather against more of that crap. (For the record: i’d rather not drive at all and we would, imo, be in a better world, if much less people would (need to) drive around so much)

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                Some definitely help without a doubt, some absolutely scare the bejeezus out of me and get switched off when I start the car. Active lane assist I’m looking at you, having to fight the steering wheel in the middle of a corner because the system misinterpreted the road markings is not something I want to experience again.

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                And number of lethal accidents raises again with mass and height of cars…

                I am not saying all safety features are bad, but just making it more and more won’t lead to a better world i think. Also they need to be 100% reliable, not 99%. Also as i said, working towards less driving would have a much more positive effect imo. Or hear me out, muuuuch better trains/public transport. I understand it’s a fantasy

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          If drivers actually kept safe distances with the vehicles in front of them, sudden deceleration like mentioned above wouldn’t be an issue.

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              Some cars automatically keep speed and distance to the car in front of them. Wouldn’t be that difficult to make the speed and distance a safe speed and distance. But no that’s not cool, need to be skirting the law at all times.

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                Yea very cool, i’m just gonna rely on everyone else to keep proper speed and distance for a day, gonna report back tomorrow (if i survive)

                I am just saying the “if” in the previous comment does a lot of work, or do you disagree? I am not saying it wouldn’t be good, but that it’s equally far away as hoping for free and frequent public transport imo

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              That’s the law where I live. It’s hard to enforce, beyond the fact that if you ram into a car from behind, you’re guilty by default (as that implies you weren’t keeping a safe distance).

              Things would be better if drivers were allowed to drop grenades behind themselves. That way there would be no need for an accident to punish the guilty.

              Hell, speed radars could be converted to also record the time between each passing car. They already have the speed, so calculating whether a car is too close to another shouldn’t be difficult.

              Point is, enforcing this would be doable rather easily if there was a political will to do so. Unfortunately hurried drivers are some of the most insufferable people on earth, and would sooner become domestic terrorists than be 5min late.

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        If I get in an accident and I’m in the middle of a busy intersection, I would not want the car to default to a limp-mode which prevents me from getting somewhere safe, in other words, out of the intersection where the light might have switched directions already.

        Many traffic fatalities happen on subsequent collisions, after the airbags deploy and the crumple zones are crumpled. The second hit, you don’t get airbags. Changing the car’s behavior, making it inoperable irrespective of context, is likely to be dangerous all on its own

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      That is definitely a possibility, but if it was one of those they probably wouldn’t have the driver in custody and instead have them in the hospital (seizure, stroke, etc.).

      It’s also very possible that they just have a large fast truck and they put it in drive instead of reverse, then panicked and kept accelerating instead of hitting the brake.

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      Maybe there was just a really good tiktok that they needed to see or a text to respond. Happens daily

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    Moses said the driver, a 34-year-old, was in custody. He did not say whether authorities believe it was intentional.

    “We are still working to determine how this happened and why this happened,” he said.

    People need to leave the fucking kids alone holy shit. At the very least it wasn’t a spontaneously dead driver. So what the fuck happened???

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    BREAKING: investigation drops all charges after they determine the driver served in the IOF and all the schoolkids were Arabs

    /satire