The whole “DSA are bunch of libs” take is wildly outdated. There are ABSOLUTELY liberals/ideological social democrats in DSA, and it varies widely like you said.
The people who rise to the leadership positions tend to be compatible in ideology to this site, though.
I’m with you and would add that if they start blasting us (let’s say figuratively for now, ideally not literally), then a lot of people are gonna feel cornered and jump to a revolutionary tendency.
It’s one of the contradictions of DemSoc thinking (I have multiple frames of mind and this is just one of them), but if the DemSoc movement is successful in its aims does that rule out revolutionary activity? Does an alternative path to building socialism exist that doesnt require a revolution? Idk
Part of the answer is here though:
if America came under the control of even a super half-ass demsoc regime, it would probably (probably) be much less willing to kill leftists in other countries than Democrats or Republicans. This can give a ton of breathing room to people worldwide
With fetterman or Lawrence?
It’s complicated
I think this is the guy who ran with DSA backing and then the day after winning is like “DSA? Who? Oh, right, my membership lapsed a few months ago and I haven’t renewed it” or maybe that was another person.
I have seen so much AI garbage in the past 24 hours I can’t believe it, idk why it is spiking so hard in my perception. Charts, Animations, “photos”
Was pretty sure about your answer, but wanted to check if I was missing anything
Why don’t the “total” numbers add up?
Sometimes I’ll be talking to a liberal (like an auntie or someone well-meaning, not someone who is very online or bluemaga) and they’ll bring up “Trump bad” or something (as they do).
Always a bit funny to me whrb I don’t really jump into the dog pile and instead try and steer things toward “well i think it’s important to gave a positive vision for the future and so [bring up some policy or vision that i would rather be talking about]”
Their eyes almost like bulge and twitch when I dont feel like rehashing “Trump bad” after over 10 years of Trump bad.
This place is way too hostile for me to suggest to irls. I would like that to change, but i don’t think it’s likely. I think it would be more productive to start my own instance for my friends and I can crosspost some Hexbear content here and there (which would be mixed in with other crossposts and direct posts) so they only see the good stuff.
Times have definitely changed though. I never brought r/cth up back then, but now that subreddit would be pretty mainstream for my circle.
Why not post them to C/cth or something if you want to discuss?
> Germans
> lecturing about who “doesn’t value human life”
Ok
none of these people are claiming to be remotely socialist
There was one DSAer and one other who is making weird comments about how he let his DSA membership lapse recently.
The polls all looked good too tbf.
Was listening to Hannity (via Hasan) whose lead-in was like “El-Sayed has a DANGEROUS ideology because he HATES Israel…” and eventually mentioned some of the other usual things too off the DSA platform (AES is not DSA or a socialist), but if they strike this tone right off the bat they are already torched.
It’s very profitable to churn out slop that targets him
I don’t think it will go away or run out, but I think it is a sign of the fundraisers’ jobs getting more challenging when they lose like this. They are weakened, but definitely not defeated (or even close to that)
I think this video by FD Signifier discusses some of it. Basically, older black folks are happy with the consistent “devil they know”, and aren’t looking to rile up the whites, even is the policies sound better. The establishment have also developed inroads into their communities in ways that white “progressives” (and such) have not done successfully. Also they are boomers who watch too much cable news.
I mean yeah socialist/socialish policy cuts right through liberal racism. An intelligent liberal like El-Sayed knows that.
We know that too, cause “Bernie would have won”. The empire is weakening and there isn’t any more juice for liberalism. They are spending $60m and losing. I don’t see any path forward for the US Right in the 2030s. The US Left is going to have Democratic Socialism as the mean position.
People are tired of “culture war fascism” and “attack Venezuela, Canada, Greenland, Iran, Cuba, Mexico fascism” not to mention ICE and Tariffs and all that. Give them an out from that and redistribute some treats, and you are set. Biden was able to fucking win, just cause people wanted a break, lmao.
What is it going to look like when all aid to Israel stops within the next 5-10 years? What will it look like if things are less adversarial with China?
Running as an independent, but i know she was previously a member of SAlt when she was on city council.
Represent