Many centrist complain about “buy me a house or I will vote for stalin” mentality of current median voter (unfortunately this is vastly over exaggerated). This is understandable. You are not entitled to power just because you declare yourself moderate and your political opponents extremists after decades of eroding standards of life. But there is another aspect: “if we were to ignore economics, there is still no reason for you to get vote. What values do you even hold?”

I remember when liberal democrats actually held some values, “democracy, human rights, freedom” and now they are not mentioned at all. All of them abandoned to serve status quo, that is israhell. “human rights are not negotiable” they pretty much are. “your nation can not hide behind identity it represents after facing criticism” except if that identity is Jews. “terrorism comes from oppression, you can not use it as an excuse to violate human rights” except if you are pissrael, then I will betray all of my values to serve you. “represent voters” they say their taxes should not go to anti-hospital bombs so fuck them. All the world views, all the beliefs, all the values are gone.

I remember how quickly they abandoned all the institutions they created when those institutions did not betray their values: Wikipedia, amnesty international, icj, icc

They are litteraly evolving into north Koreans they have in their heads. Their leader loses? It is the masses fault. Our leaders is entitled to everything. Masses must deliver what they want. Let’s do some racial analysis on voters to see who failed them. Our leader has does not represent people’s will? Change the will of people’s will. If you can’t, ignore their demands

When commies say “strait is still closed” these liberal democrats respond “how is Gaza doing?”. It makes sense for commies to say “stait is still closed” even though it is not closed by a communist state. It serves their goals. Less carbon emissions, damaging petro dollar and pushing amerikkkan hegemony away from region. Current situation of Gaza only serves 3 ideologies: israhelli nationalists, zionazi anti democrats and status quo worshippers. It is a win for them since they are actually the latter

Liberal democrats treat commies as if we were born commies when most of us had somewhat liberal democrat phase. I had one too. I was always some part socialist, but I still respected and wanted liberal democrat values.

Ultimately, I would not hate usa, israhell, current liberal democrat parties and social democrat parties any less if I was liberal democrat or social democrat

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    I remember when liberal democrats actually held some values, “democracy, human rights, freedom” and now they are not mentioned at all.

    It was always a mask, but it no longer can remain on.

    I remember how quickly they abandoned all the institutions they created when those institutions did not betray their values: Wikipedia, amnesty international, icj, icc

    And all those institutions did betray their values, liberals just wanted them to do it faster, more conspiciously and more completely.

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      the-deserter “I’d seen it in reality. The mask of humanity fall from capital. It has to take it off to kill everyone – everything you love; all the hope and tenderness in the world. It has to take it off, just for one second. To do the deed.”

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    Do you think all of that is new? Do you think they ever actually held those values?

    Compare it to the atrocities of Korea, Vietnam, or the hundreds of proxy wars. Back then their liberals’ bullshit was as hollow as now; the only difference today is that the people being massacred have Instagram and Tiktok accounts, so the yankkks who are unable to point where even murikkka is on a map cannot unsee the atrocities.

    They aren’t unwilling to even lie anymore, they still say bullshit excuses and justifications, which, I repeat, back then were as hollow as now.

    Or perhaps you think they now became monsters just because Israel “forced” them? Sorry to say it, but that smells a bit funny despite how much that entity and its citizens deserve to burn in hell.

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    Liberalism’s superstructure consists of the most annoying self centered I know better smarmy I did this alone type mindset. I’m sure feudal lords and clergy were frustrating, but they didn’t have the means to socially reproduce this totalitarian impulse worldwide. Who was their Bill Maher? The guys coming up with universal human rights were also like buying stock in the East India Company and shit. The human was freed from god and his bag men, but had to be again caged into colonial racial castes and inferior national identities and ‘savagery.’ So human rights is the right of the defined human to engage in a public sphere life of trade and a private sphere life of solitude.

    Time goes by: reputation increases, ability declines

    —Dag Hammarskjöld

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      There’s this interesting recurring pattern in European history during the middle parts of the feudal era. A fairly large number of monarchs converted to Christianity and a major factor in that was that being exposed to the concepts of charitable giving or the immorality of hoarding wealth marked the first time in multigenerational memory that a monarch actually experienced any pushback whatsoever.

      newsflash-asshole “Y’all heard of this Jesus guy? He says you should feed and clothe the poor. Having a Scrooge McDuck vault directly guarantees passage to hell.”

      witch-unsmug “WHAT!? My actions have consequences for people other than serfs? That’s so crazy, I’ll get right on it. This is the first time anyone in my family line has ever been exposed to a suggestion to change anything we’re doing, other than another royal dictating the unfavorable terms of our surrender.”