Wow, I didn’t know about either, Wikipedia speedruns or JKR’s Holocaust denialism. Thanks, OP.
EDIT: She’s a holocaust denier, which I didn’t know. Guess she is a nazi after all!
Here’s the link (from Political views of J. K. Rowling):
She is very much a TERF, an acephobe, kinda racist (just look at her character names), and therefore quite a horrible person;
but, while it wouldn’t surprise me if she was, she is not a nazi.Honestly, calling everyone a nazi just feeds into the right’s narrative of “oh they call everyone a nazi, ignore them”.
I’m not defending anyone, especially not J.K. Rowling, but this isn’t helping our cause, quite the contrary actually.
She is however a holocaust denier
Source?
I have seen zero credible sources for this specific claim of Holocaust denial. The closest I’ve found is that she argued that trans people weren’t the first group targeted by the Nazis. (Not denying that they were targeted. Just disputing that they were first.) That’s not the same as “Holocaust denial.”
I already know she’s a bad person who uses her celebrity to spread hate and spends her time and money trying to further oppress some of the most marginalized people in the world. We can dislike her for those very real reasons without spreading false stories about her.
Okay but, let’s be fair, not knowing the Nazis burned books on trans healthcare and research is not the same as denying the holocaust.
I’m not saying she hasn’t denied the holocaust. I’m just saying this isn’t an example of that.
There’s also a difference between not knowing something and implying that something is a lie (and sending that implication out to her millions of Twitter followers).
Oh absolutely, I agree 100%. All I’m saying is that this wasn’t an example of holocaust denial. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t ignorant and shitty.
Shes denying part of the holocaust. Whether that be from ignorance or otherwise idk and idc. Denying part of the holocaust is definitionally holocaust denial. Thats litterally the defining trait of the word
Denying part of the holocaust is definitionally holocaust denial.
It really isn’t “definitionally” Holocaust denial. “Holocaust denial” as a linguist concept as understood by most people has nothing at all to do with denying the burning of trans literature.
“Deniers assert that the Holocaust is a fabrication or exaggeration,[3][4][5]making one or more of the following false claims:”
and then an incomplete list of holocaust denialist claims. Thats from your own link
J K Rowling is claiming the holocaust is exaggereted in them tweets, therefore: denying part of the holocaust as defined by the above.
and holocaust denial is an academic term with a pretty precise definition, as much as it is a colloqial one.
jk rowling is definitely the type of person who will argue the holocaust didn’t exist with george takei, who was literally in concentration camps during ww2.
I’m not following the logic here. I mean, he was in American concentration camps - not sure how that’s relevant to claims about what the Nazis did. I know he’s right, but it’s not like he was there or anything.
She didn’t argue that trans people weren’t the first group targeted, she argured that trans people weren’t targeted at all/it doesn’t matter that they were (however you want to read into the tweet linked in the article).
https://forward.com/culture/592580/j-k-rowling-holocaust-denial-trans/
Ah, I didn’t know that. Thanks!
Oh that’s how they found nazism! I spent 60 seconds searching for nazism in the page but i didn’t find it so i just stopped
I don’t see anything about holocaust denial in your link. There’s a 2018 article discussing parallels between her work and the real holocaust but it doesn’t claim she’s a denier. I don’t really care for Rowling but I also don’t like misinformation. If there is some evidence can you please share it?
She thinks that transgender people were not persecuted during the Holocaust.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/03/jk-rowling-denies-transgender-persecution-during-the-holocaust/
Thanks for the source although I think that’s quite specific. It seems mostly about her being ignorant and doubling down on her war against trans people rather than a blanket denial of the holocaust which the term “holocaust denier” conjures
Your article frames it this way:
While Rowling has not denied the Holocaust itself happened, she is accused of engaging in a form of Holocaust denial for questioning the persecution of trans people under the Nazi regime, a fact which has been well documented
I’m not denying she’s a cunt but I think it’s important to be precise with these sorts of allegations.
I think that’s a pretty accurate assessment. I personally haven’t seen any evidence that she’s anti-Semitic and that is the center of Holocaust denialism. I don’t think her claims are driven by conspiracy theories. She just has a million Yes Men who encourage her anti-trans positions and it just feels right to her
Would you say someone that says the holocaust did happen but only 1000 Jews were killed is not a holocaust denier?
What I am saying is that based on this twitter spat I would not call her a holocaust denier. You are free to make your own judgment.
Imagine being so blinded by bigotry that you think that transgender people, of all the fucking groups, were the one group that nazis were totally cool with.
I think she just doesn’t believe trans identity is a real thing and that it wasn’t yet “invented” in the 1930s.
Not knowing what the fuck they’re talking about is kind of a staple of transphobes.In her defense for some reason there just aren’t many records of us in 1940s Germany /s
In case anyone’s unaware, that famous photo of nazis burning books, yeah those are records of trans people among other texts on queer sexology
For the uninitiated:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_für_SexualwissenschaftIt’s an interesting read.
Acephobe??? I was unaware. Good to know I’m hated double.
Oh now do Morrissey
Easy mode.
This is a dope game
Harry Potter → Voldemort would be a lot faster tbh
I get the joke, but You can get from anything to Hitler 4 clicks. Every article has a country > history > WW2 > Hitler.
Nah, that’s irrelevant. OP didn’t get to Naziism via some broad category like that, they got there directly through JKR
You got me. Although I’m not sure if this counts as an article.
Anything (Jay Z song) > Jay Z > Kanye West > Nazism
Lmao I thought you were guessing/joking until I checked
Anything (The Damned album) → Denmark → Nazism is even faster due to Danish Studio
Haha awesome
But not 3 clicks.
I wasn’t aware other countries played 5 clicks to Hitler as well.
Not sure where you’re at but I do this frequently. Also do an IMDb pick an actor and a movie and see how quickly you can get that movie by navigating cast lists and credits I.e Will Smith > Ad Astra
Will Smith > Men in Black > Tommy Lee Jones > Ad Astra. That’s a simple one, but you get the idea.
Isn’t this just a twist on “degrees of Kevin Bacon”?
Germany. And to be honest, it might be easier over here.
