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Close readers of the manga will also have noticed that The USSR is now Volgarena and the US is now the MAG Union. It seems all countries besides Japan have been replaced with fictitious ones (except North Korea, which I guess they aren’t worried about offending?)
Interesting comment from under this youtube video that gets into the censorship:
Golantoruという国名は日本語じゃないと分かりにくいかもしれない、GolanHeightsをToru(奪う)という造語だ MAGAllianceは言わなくても分かるよね 制裁する側のアメリカに居ると体感できないかもしれないが 他の国にとって今イスラエル周辺を話題にするのは大変危険だ アメリカ大統領がICC所長の日本人にした事を考えれば、SARUの選択肢は先見性があったと言える いつ米国の制裁を受けるか分からないのだから
machine translation renders it as:
The country name “Golantoru” might be hard to understand unless you know Japanese—it’s a made-up word combining “Golan Heights” with “Toru” (to seize). I’m sure you all know what MAGAlliance is without me having to say it. Living in the U.S., which is imposing sanctions, you might not feel it firsthand, but for other countries, discussing the situation around Israel right now is extremely dangerous. Considering what the U.S. president did to the Japanese head of the ICC, you could say SARU’s decision was far-sighted. After all, you never know when the U.S. might impose sanctions.
In a show about political corruption, this is of course not a cool sign of the times, but also highly understandable to do by a corporation that still cares somewhat about the message of the thing they are making.
Anyone who can put 2 and 2 together will still get the message of the show and any who cannot, would not have been helped by real country names being used.
hoping those are both (derogatory)
取る「とる」 (toru) is literally “to take” in Japanese. It actually functions very similarly to English and while different nuanced meanings have different kanji, in spoken Japanese it is the same; 取る「とる」(toru) to take something. 撮る「とる」(toru) to take a picture. Usually when Japanese shortens a loanword it takes the first part of each word and shortens it then combines it for example パーソナルコンピュータ (paasonaru conpyuuta)“Personal Computer” is shortened to パソコン (Pasocon) Instead of “Com” or “PC” like in English. This is because letters as English natives understand them are not utilized the same way in Japanese. this is likely what he means by “maybe non-Japanese speakers might not understand”. The name is literally “Taker of Golan Heights”
Although I’m not sure where the name Volgarena is from but I’m assuming its a reference to ヴォルガ川 and レナ川 or the Volga and Rena rivers in West and East within Russia. I don’t know any other country names in the show that are mentioned but if you have questions I speak Japanese and can probably find the answers.
My Translation “If you didn’t speak Japanese the name “Golantoru” might be a bit hard to understand, it’s made by combining the words “Golan Heights” and [the Japanese word] “toru” (meaning to steal). MAGAlliance can be understood without even saying it*[.]* On the side of the Americans living there you might not experience the effects of sanctions, I’m not sure. But, for other countries, the discussion of the situation around Israel is seriously dangerous. If you consider what the president of America did to the Japanese head of the ICC [Tomoko Akane], you could say SARU’s decision is very forward thinking, because perhaps they were anticipating receiving sanctions from the U.S.”
Its rare that a Machine translate even get close to the meaning of a sentence let alone a paragraph so this was decent.
MAG Union.
i see what you did there
(Hungarians have taken over)
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Yeah they did. But at least they haven’t really changed much more than the names. Still holds up imo; I’m waiting for a fansub to just change the names around though lol
Half-baked critique of capitalism at best. It is the prioritization of profits that hurts workers at home but even more abroad. Consumerism is only a tool to comfort the workers in the core, which has a side effect of being bad for nature. It is not the root evil. Consumerism will decline with the rise of fascism as the workers in the imperial core can and need to be controlled in other ways. The resources for treats will be used in the war machine.
Half-baked critique of capitalism at best
It’s an Japanese show animated in 2026 based on a manga written in the late eighties/early 90s, you should be grateful it even critiques capitalism at all.
But I am not, because it puts blame on the workers instead of on those that hold power.
based on a manga written in the late eighties/early 90s, you should be grateful it even critiques capitalism at all.
its age makes it MORE likely to critique capitalism, regardless of the quality of the critique tbh
Sure but she’s a government assassin in the first place. Having a half-baked view of the world is the reason she works for government doing what she does.
I love GiTS and it does make sense that she has a half baked criticism. It is however not a scene that is able to instill any good criticism in the viewer so I am unsure how this particular scene would ‘hold up’. That is pretty much all I wanted to point out. Not every movie has to be a critique of capitalism.
Oh yeah for sure. That’s fine. Most of GitS is just “government is bad and corrupt” as a backdrop for sexy ladies and cool ideas about transhumanism. It has very little to say politically and is much more interesting as an exploration of the question of what makes us human or different to computers if we put ourselves in the computers?
I should note I’m not talking about the movie though, but the original 1989 manga and the new 2026 series adaptation of it.
Is the new series good? I only watched the anime movie.
It is an absolutely perfect 1:1 adaptation of the original source material leaving nothing out. I can not recommend it enough, it is very very good. The only thing I will say about it is that it requires concentration and moves very fast at times which can make mental processing of what’s occurring slightly difficult if viewing casually. That’s true of the original movie too though.
Source? :)
Koukaku Kidoutai (2026) S1E09
The show is so painfully 1990s in a lot of ways and the one thing they change is this. It’s a pitty, really, i dig the animation and the score and the action scenes, but the vibe is really off.
