Firefox says it will keep supporting uBlock Origin even as Microsoft Edge and other Chromium browsers phase it out under Manifest V3.
I can’t imagine using the web without firefox and ublock. Even the cookie consent popups are awful.
Seriously. I clear my cookies on Firefox exit because I don’t want their shit on my computer if it isn’t needed.
This would cause me to see them every single damn time.
Yeah, the user experience of “just wipe cookies on browser exit” is a lot better than “have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
However, regarding “every single damn time”…some sites can have their “do you want cookies” popup just blocked by the Firefox I still don’t care about cookies addon. It’s not a solution for every site out there, but it’ll get a lot of them.
It’s also possible to use another extension, Behind the Overlay on some sites. This does require a click, so manual action, but it tries to identify “pop-over” content that covers up the browser window and remove it with that click. It’s really intended as a more-general solution to “pop-over” stuff, but cookie pop-ups often take this form and can be dismissed.
You can also just enable one of the “Cookie notices” lists in your ublock settings, no need for another extension.
Especially considering how many extensions have been found to be malware lately
have a million prompts all over zillions of sites”.
I’m using Ghostery to automatically reject all of those. They pop-in and almost immediately disappear.
Ublock Lite still works in Chrome (and it still blocks YouTube ads, not sure about cookie popups), but you get no control over the filters. Just a slider with some presets to choose from. So while better than nothing, just stick with Firefox.
Now that MV2 is dead in chrome, i wouldn’t bet on YouTube ads being able to be blocked by UBlock Lite for much longer.
Pretty sure full ublock origin still works in helium no?
Pretty sure I’ve read months ago that the maintainers said they’ll try to support it as long as possible but at the moment v2 support is removed from the source code, they’ll won’t have the resources to add it back again.
LibreWolf, WaterFox and Vivaldi
vivaldi recently disabled uBO and said it’d soon be unsupported. you can re-enable for now
I was using vivaldi and they were kind enough(seriously) to inform me that they don’t support ublock anymore maybe a week ago.
Not sure about the reason but I think that it’s a technical thing the Google changed to deliberately make it easy to end ublock on a lot of browsers. Might not be the only reason(actual tech upgrades) but I believe it’s part of the reason since major conspiracies seem much more likely these days.
Anyway, I switched back to Librewolf even though it can’t play x.265 files (jellyfin). Anything that kills the use of ublock is dead to me even though they have their own shitty, bullshit blocking solution. It’s never going to be as good as ublock edit grammar and shit
I didn’t know that, well glad I went to LibreWolf.
Zen, though I think that’s basically Firefox under the hood.
…may you elaborate?
LibreWolf has it pre-installed and is Open-source. It worked on waterfox an Open-source fork of Firefox, last time I tried.
As for Vivaldi I guess use Brave instead.
Brave is the money generator of a far right hate group. Fuck Brendan Eich, fuck their ad replacement scam, fuck everything Brave.
And Brave, don’t forget brave
No, you should forget brave it’s yet another piece of shit chrome knock off. Just like the rest. It ain’t immune. It can kick and scream but either the entire project dies or they bend the knee eventually.
As long as chromium is open source I see no problem down the line… and if Google one day stops the funding of open source projects, well, the Firefox is also toast
If they ever stop supporting it I will continue to use the last version to support it, any website that breaks compatibility with this Firefox version can get fucked.
That’s a significant security risk, unfortunately.
If that happens, I’d suggest a fork with a built in blocker, one that still gets security patches from upstream Firefox.
Exactly. Ublock origin is notable only for being part of 0 ad companies and 100% trustworthy. The blocking lists are universal. If it’s built into the browser, you’re golden
Well…
With a fork, one is very dependent on the browser dev. Not just on their benevolence, but on their security practices too. And on them pulling in upstream security patches, quickly.
TBH, this is why I do finance stuff on vanilla Firefox. I love browser forks, I really do, but I’m a bit more cautious with them, too.
The most used forks are usually larger teams tbf, not a single dev
True, sometimes. But they don’t have the sheer manpower dedicated to security that Mozilla has, nor the institutional policies that try to mitigate losing a key/account or something like that. Also, technically, vanilla Firefox is first to get the zero-day patches before they filter downstream.
Not that the forks are dangerous or anything, generally.
“Dev” as if it’s just a singular person
Most of the forks are teams of 10-20 devs
i mean… blocking lists are universal, but the other features ublock offers are not - i’m making heavy use of ublock’s dynamic filtering panel and per-site switches. one important thing i use ublock for is to whitelist which sites get javascript permissions and to get rid of remote fonts to make pages more readable. those features need manifest v2.
if firefox drops manifest v2 and you’re relying purely on those inbuilt blocking lists then you might as well use the manifest v3 version of ublock without seeing a difference, right?
you might as well use the manifest v3 version of ublock without seeing a difference, right?
Can confirm, I was thinking about switching off of Chrome due to this but since I don’t use the custom stuff (much) I’m not noticing a difference with the v3 compatible “light” version of uBlock Origin.
I’ll just spend my reading time reading more books than I do now. Forcing me to look at ads will not work.
wait for 4g books that serve you unskippable ads
Librewolf would probably still support it
I’d probably go retro, use something like Dillo and stick to more classic webpages. Or go full Gopher/Gemini.
In unrelated news, Firefox is now the dominant browser and nobody knows why.
If only that were true. To many people are addicted to google to ever give up chrome/chromium without a series of catastrophic fuckups from google.
Doesn’t help that Mozilla leadership is incompetent and doesn’t know what their core audience wants
also dependant on GOOGLe for revenue too.
Unfortunate how momentum like that works. I haven’t managed to degoogle myself yet but switching to firefox has created zero issues in my daily usage
Well, it’s better if it’s a slow process, just like detoxing. Good luck by the way.
Dude, the last thing I use Google for is YouTube and the ads are so much now on my tv and when listening to stories in my car that I’m seriously considering either paying for nebula or just snorting whatever I find under the sink for amusement.
uBlock origin works on YouTube and works in Firefox for Android
So, I can finally point and laugh at the people who were saying that the manifest V3 thing was a non issue because their ad blocker was still working ?
no, because their ad blocker is still working
At a lower efficiency than before, and a lot of stuff now won’t get blocked because of the limit in definitions.
Define “lower efficiency”, please.
No, because ad blocks work perfectly fine.
I’m using Ghostery on Vivaldi (Chromium-based) and it works perfectly fine, including blocking ads during YouTube videos.
No idea why uBlock specifically is being blocked, but it’s not like you can’t have an ad-blocker anymore.
That will totally lead to websites not supporting or even blocking Firefox. Together with uBlock capitulating against Facebook and all those age registration nonsense, I really am scared about the future of the web.
That will totally lead to websites not supporting or even blocking Firefox.
A lot of websites that really should be testing for this don’t work on Firefox.
Absolute worst case Firefox can focus on feature parity(as it already has a lot of), and lie on the UserAgent
and reddit is aggressively try to force thier login popup at everytime, it hasnt rolled out completely. but people already reported.
Meh if a site doesnt work on firefox I move on. I dont want all the shit that comes with visiting from chrome. If I cnt buy because of cookies or ads then I wont buy from them.
Other adblocks still work. I’m using Ghostery on Vivaldi (Chromium-based) and it works perfectly fine, including blocking ads during YouTube videos.
No idea why uBlock specifically is being blocked, but it’s not like you can’t have an ad-blocker anymore.
I jumped to i2p for this reason. I think internet is dead, we will have to have a double identity to avoid brainrotting
The best extension :)
+ a mediocre browser
No, you’re a mediocre browser
And his mom is too
Can confirm; Dan’s mom = very mediocre. Not worth the journey to her house 3/10.
Gotem!
His dad is a great Bowser though
What is mediocre about it? What would be an example of a good browser, and what are the differences?
Nothing is mediocre about it. All of the “best” browsers are based on FF’s Gecko engine. Maybe they have complaints about Mozilla or the weird stuff they’ve been doing with FF recently. But the actual Gecko engine is solid, and it’s what all the best browsers are based on.
Don’t feed the troll, down vote and move on
complaints not parsed into action items aren’t worth anyone’s time.
Why?
It’s bait. The only “better” browsers are downstreams of FF.
I.e. it is the last usable browser.
Future is dark:
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Android getting locked down
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They are asking your government ID to use OS, access internet etc.
There must be real protest, revolution, something otherwise it will just get worst
pssst: it’s gonna get worse
Download a shitload of epubs, roms, backup of wikipedia, and get ready for full-on, unmissable, 1984-style marketing and propaganda culture. You’ll see it, you’ll have to see it, and there will be no option B.
What if instead we… stop that from happening?
I am not sure what your comments mean. I am in tremendous back pain. And didn’t sleep For so long, and the fucking humidity.
I want to add more. And vent.
I am old enough and I saw similar actions, and the out come of it.
Slwoly we are forced to use ESIMS, where I live, I have to pay every time I switch phones.
And if I am outside of the country, I can’t even switch phones.
I love the idea of esims, but not how it is implemented.
Digiral data produced by me is so.expensive to keep.
It is the digital age, but not a digital .storage age, it is cheaper to print shit.
Optical storage can store terabytes of data, easy to maintain, you can design a device where the hdd store meta data and anyone from your family cam access the data stored on archival optical drives.
It is not built because they want us to use the cloud. Maybe it is greed, control, surveillance.
I just want a simple cartridge that can store my data for decads and technologically that is easily done. There are already archival optical storage sold to data centers, but why not to small businesses or consumers!?!?
It is basically several bluray discs in a cartridge.
The future is dark because of human nature.
And we will do nothing about because look at state of printers. The ink cost more than gold per gram
Look at air purifiers all proprietary filters that are over priced
And yes I know about CR boxes but those furnace filters are only sold in USA.
We are not good creatures
Sorry, I am coherent enough to know I am not coherent, I needed to vent.
I’ve got 100tb getting filled. I’m ready. Ok in reality its closer to 60 tb after raid and I’m duplicating the important stuff across 2 devices. But that’s only about 5 tb. But I’m including lots of PDFs epubs and zims as important stuff. The rest is just media.
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Like a true google hate inspired hipster I have been using Firefox for at least the past 9 years. Don’t let one of the shittiest companies control even more of the world because you are too fucking lazy to switch to a different browser. If you have to deal with a few shitty websites made by morons that only work in chrome keep a secondary chromium install on standby when you have to hold your nose and use it.
In my experience even one of the platforms with moronic developers eventually fixed their Firefox support. I dunno if the surge in Linux users had anything to do with it or not, or if it was because I would browser there, make my payments fail then switch to the Falkon browser every single time.
Honestly I can only think of one. Weirdly a “developer platform”
Well I guess a couple more because keyboard firmware sites do that usb browser thing that terrifies me is a thing and only chrome supports.
I have been a web dev for over 25… oh god… approaching 30 years, and most web dev teams with an ounce of self respect will spend the honestly trivial time to test against different browsers. I consider it a basic part of the god damn job. Even still banks and government sites seem to not give a fuck.
Firefox recently grew that terrifying WebSerial USB thing!
For a while I think it was Papa Johns, or Dominos, some pizza chain site didn’t work on Firefox. Worse than that though when I was in highschool I remember some school district stuff didn’t work on Firefox
Google is locking down Android too!
As far as I know the Google Developer Verification BS won’t reach Custom ROMs right? But yea in the long run it probably makes sense to make the jump one day or another.
Is there a good small cheap repairable phone out there? I have a fairphone4 and I LOVE /E/ OS. But I would also like to actually USE a linux phone. And I cant experiment as much as I would want on my main phone.
Ive almost thought about carrying a tiny burner phone then a small laptop for everything else.
I have a fairphone4 and I LOVE /E/ OS. But I would also like to actually USE a linux phone
What do you mean? You can’t use your FP4?
I’m considering getting a FP6 relatively soon, and would be using it as my only one…
Every Linux phone uses an android shim just because it isn’t possible to change the firmware iirc
I use android via /e/os. But I cannot experiment with my only phone. There is 2fa and other such services that I have to have access to. Worst case, I cant get into accounts and such.
FF is a great phone btw.
There is 2fa and other such services that I have to have access to. Worst case, I cant get into accounts and such.
That’s my main concern too.
Here in Denmark, the MitID authentification app is completely integral to functioning online, and last I checked it doesn’t work on GrapheneOS, so /e/os is probably not likely either 🫤
You can’t use something like bitwarden for mitid?
Nope, you’ll need mitid specifically. It’s run by the government and mandated 😮💨
I love my FP6
Pihole. Doesn’t solve everything, but I’m currently blocking ads from just over a half million domains.
Got a good tutorial or hardware rec for me? I’ve been meaning to pihole for a while…
As for tutorial I think Pi-hole’s own documentation suffice though if you mean starting from server installation, that’s another thing. Definitely not hard but it would be nice if you know Linux to be comfortable in terminal.
As for hardware, this netbook is basically my home server including Pi-hole: https://www.productindetail.com/pn/samsung-n150-plus
Is there something analogous that can be run with bind?
At this point if you’re not already using a DNS filter of some sort, I have no idea how you survive. I use opnsense with zenarmor for ad blocking and it works really well. Had this going for a long time so no need to try pihole yet. I also use uBlock on my browsers for YouTube and the like. And greyjay on my phone. And I use automation on my phone (if not my WiFi, engage wireguard). I don’t know how I’d stay sane without it all.
All the other major browser has blocked it.
Well, almost all others are basically Chrome.
That’s the joke lol
I’ve been using Firefox for ages now so I don’t get it : what’s the point of using Chrome or Edge ?
Cause People. Don’t. Care
Even if something gathers illegal amounts of data, and has removed all ad blocking extensions, they will just use the default.
There was a time when Chrome was fresh that it seemed to be a fast, lightweight feeling new alternative. I didn’t switch back until I was looking for more control over content presentation options.
Solely for when a page only works in Chromium based slop.
I’ve never seen that, which freaking websites only works in Chromium?
I’ve seen glorious corporate interfaces, only functioning in Microsoft Explorer. But only Chromium?
Some training content for work (I think it was for an in-browser code security training). And I’ve run into one or two sites where they required me to try in Chrome for a support issue, just can’t remember what it was. And newbs vibe-producing corporate tool proofs of concept as Chrome plugins because it’s simpler and doesn’t depend on any gatekeepers to deployment. (Fortunately, other gatekeepers still got a chance to say “no” and forced it to become a real web application.)
At least one security researcher says Edge is the most secure option for Windows users.
https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/security-privacy-advice.html#browser
Switched to edge after chrome notified that adblock and other manifest v2 extensions will be blocked. Edge did the same thing recently. Now switched to Firefox. Used to use Firefox way back in the day then left it due to Chrome but now Firefox feels like home. Surprisingly l, it’s faster in some cases compared to Chrome. Not a single regret after switching. Adblock stays which is extremely important esp after youtube increased ads
Welcome back!
Firefox evolves too, and there’s a lot of improvements both in the UI and under the hood. If you used Firefox before 2017, the difference should be especially prominent as they made a huge engine-level leap back then.
Yeah! Firefox after a certain time (pre 2017 as mentioned by u) felt slow and sluggish compared to chrome but now in some cases it’s better than chrome
Of course they will, it’s their main selling point.
