All a distraction from the Epstein files
The core problem with all this anti-vax bullshit, is that Vaccines worked…and they worked too well.
We have entire generations now that have never seen the terrible consequences of Polio, Smallpox, Measels (Although thats quickly changing, Go America! /s), or any other disease thats been eliminated (at least at one point… Go America! /s) from popular concern and conscious.
and as a result, they have no idea what crippling horrors that they have been, and are actively, protected from.
and because humans are, generally, stupid and irrational and a lot of them lack the capability to think about anything beyond what they can see within 3 feet around them, they scream about the vaccines and call them evil because they have absolute no experience with the alternative, which is the diseases themselves.
Don’t forget scarlet fever, rheumatic fever, puerperal fever, and the plague!
Yep. In this case: rules are written in blood, yet some people forget why they are here in the first place.
Only to inevitably find out “holy shit, now i get it”
Rand Paul is vaccinated. Reminder to tell anyone who brings him up that fact.
All conservatives are. Even the most vehement anti-vax ones.
Fox News didnt let anyone in the building without a vaccine card at one point.
But conservative voters always conveniently ignore and pretend not to remember all of this.
He doesn’t seem to be claiming he isn’t vaccinated.
RP: hotdogs might not be healthy Lemmy users: you once at a hotdog hahahaha owned noob!
You’re either young or not American. Rand Paul has been anti vaccination forever
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/rand-pauls-vaccine-claims-microscope
"On Friday night in Iowa, Paul faced likely voters in the state’s leadoff nominating caucuses for the first time since answering questions about a measles outbreak centered in California. Paul said Monday that he had heard about “many tragic cases” of children who got vaccines and ended up with “profound mental disorders.”
That assertion has no basis in medical research, and Paul clearly was still upset on Friday about how his comments had been received"
This is from early 2015, before COVID btw.
The tweet isn’t any kind of “own.” It doesn’t contradict Rand Paul. Everyone here thinking like this is some really clever gotcha moment … they’re just kind of telling on themselves.
Reminder: The neoeugenics movement wants to ban vaccines for the masses, so that the poor will die from preventable diseases.
Disease mutates if left to eat through the masses. It will mutate into something that kills them too. What an idiotic idea, I struggle to believe these people actually think this way.
We tried immunity via infection. Over a million people died.
“Infection is the best protection” sounds fucking crazy
I get the context, I get the point
But it’s still crazy
Its literally the idea behind a vaccine anyway. You are deliberately infected with something that mimics a marker for the virus (or sometimes a deactivated virus) in order for your body to deal with it before it fucking kills you.
These idiots are arguing for vaccines without even knowing it.
That’s the idea behind Edward Jenner’s smallpox vaccine, but only a few modern vaccines give live pathogens, or even neutralised pathogens as vaccines.
The COVID RNA vaccines (e.g. Pfizer/Moderna) contained messenger RNA that gave instructions to your body to construct proteins found on the surface of the COVID virus (specifically the spike proteins). Your immune system would then train itself on them.
You’re not getting a small dose of virus, or even any parts of the virus, dead or alive. You’re getting instructions on how to make a substance that the virus also contains. It’s very impressive tech, but I do worry that it could be given blanket approval post-covid. The RNA instructions are just a delivery mechanism. What matters, from a safety point of view, is what the instructions tell the body to make.
Well yes, I was simplifying for the sake of the layman. Either way youre using a marker for your immune system to target.
I will admit Ive been out of the game, so to speak, long before mRNA vaccines became available so I cant comment on the risks.
My favorite is that these chucklefucks treat COVID like it was all Dr Fauci’s fault, as if every major country in the world didn’t also have vaccine strategies in place. The moment you explain the rest of the world doing it better than America, they stare at you like deer in headlights.
they still believe china created it.
They believe FAUCI created it in a secret lab in Wuhan China.
medical science has shown that long covid fucks with the brain. now, is this an “easy out” for stupid people, or do we really have to consider it
We all knew infection was the best protection.
Statistically speaking, yes, comparing the group who had had COVID vs the group that was vaccinated, in subsequent COVID infections those who had had the disease were less likely to die.
Because those in the infection group who were most likely to die of COVID had already died. Turns out surviving COVID is a good indicator of your ability to survive COVID.
The statistics on unvaccinated first-time COVID vs vaccinated first-time COVID tells a very different story.
This kind of bullshit frustrates me so much.
Yeah, infection is the best protection… If you survive your first infection, which an awful lot of people didn’t, and many more still developed life long disability as a result.
So I think I speak for most when I say I’d rather take the vaccine, so my chances of dying/being hospitalised were way lower if I ever got the real thing.
Has Rand Paul ever gotten a cold? He must have only done so once and now has lifetime immunity.
I remember the time I got the flu. Boy was it awful, but I’m so glad I can’t ever get it again.
no, but he tried to certify himself by creating his own accredidation program when he became an MD for his specialty, i think opthamology. he was a scam artist from the start.
remember rand paul is the other SENATOR of kentucky, along with mitch.
So the good folk of Kentucky are represented by one dead senator and the other just brain-dead. I wonder what their internal monologue is convincing themselves that this is something that actually succeeds in “owning the libs”
While this could be based on bad faith we cannot deny how a cover up was happening, and how mishandling of the pandemic caused more death.
It was very clear how this was being studied actively in a poorly protected lab, and highly possible that it could a soptage event or an accedident. Yet they continue to dismmiss these suggestions as being lies and conspiracy theory.
I recall posting published academic papers from the lab around October before the cases start coming up discussing continuing research of the virus and getting banned on Reddit. That how crazy it was.
People also need to question how senior homes were mismanaged that causes unnecessary deaths/murder due to neglect.
Same with Nurses and medical staff who suffer due to lack of organization and oversight.
Also for vaccine, in a capitalist society that values money over anything else, after a major event like that, there should be national committee in every country investigating CEO and major shareholder and any communication between any parties that made tons of money.
Assuming Fauci is innocent just because Republicans are the one going after him is stupid. The two party system should be able to hold each other accountable. If he didn’t want to handle the investigation, he should have quit, taking the position comes with risks of being investigated for mishandling of situations and he should be ready for it.
The main problem here, is that, while Republicans doing their job, even as misdirection or in bad faith, the Democrats are not holding Republicans to the same standards, best they do is continuing where the Republican left.
So yes this is good to see and hope more details comes out.
Yet they continue to dismmiss these suggestions as being lies and conspiracy theory.
Because at this point, as far as I can tell, this is still just baseless speculation. It could have been that, but it could have been aliens, we don’t have any actual evidence to base any of it on, hence it being easy to dismiss as a conspiracy theory.
People also need to question how senior homes were mismanaged that causes unnecessary deaths/murder due to neglect.
Same with Nurses and medical staff who suffer due to lack of organization and oversight.
Yes, this is every damn day. Before COVID, during the height of the pandemic, and every day since. None of that is particularly relevant to COVID, Fauci, or vaccines. Profit seeking interests preying on the weak without sufficient repurcussions.
Assuming Fauci is innocent just because Republicans are the one going after him is stupid.
We presume innocence because not one bit of evidence has been presented. Like this accusation that we should have just all gotten infected because ‘everyone knew’ that was better than getting vaccinated. Which goes against mountains of evidence showing that people were way better off with the vaccinne, with the most ‘damming’ credible outcome being that maybe it was a waste of time for people under 20, but only evident with hindsight.
The problem is simply that the pandemic was an embarrassment for Trump, and would have been even if he handled everything right (which he didn’t), but they need to scapegoat someone so they scapegoat Fauci for no apparent reason.
Fauci is definitely innocent. Not sure where you even find grounds to argue that.
I agree with a lot of what you say but acting like fauci is cobra commander or something and controls all these strings is nuts. I think it was something like 50,000 a year for 8 years that went towards this specific lab which fauci had the authority to apply alongside a ton of other labs.
Yeah it’s almost like it’s reality, something you guys enjoy holding hands and pretending “isn’t real” 24/7 together eh https://www.c-span.org/program/senate-committee/dr-anthony-fauci-testifies-on-origins-of-covid-19-pandemic/683492 Been reality since day 1 and now even here 6.5 years later with this proof right in front of your eyes you continue to pretend this isn’t true because “we don’t want it to be” / “it would mean those people we dislike were correct all along”
Delusion, now be sure to ban me for disagreeing and providing evidence as to why so your echo chamber remains strong Also FYI most people in the world live in reality unlike you all and make their decisions upon that (see: the current president of the united states, who also won the popular vote), can’t wait for you to emotionally jump on my comment with zero counter arguments as you’re unable to refute anything I’ve said <3 just hit the down arrow by my name and scroll down QUICK ! ! !
Wut?
Can’t refute what you said because you didn’t say anything.
Brother, I think you forgot to take your meds this morning.
what are you trying to say?
Get some help man, you don’t have to go through life in a cloud of insanity.
Says a dude who will never have even a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at their age, like 7+ children, a home at 19 years old, economic stability, or at least a happy family of four without a college degree. Why? Are they smarter, work harder, or what?
Why should we listen to a dumbass who cannot make even a quarter of what any of my baby boomer grandparents made at your age, one had 7 children, the other 10, and one of them didn’t go to college? Both are obsessed with the Bible. Both have massive homes and had a life full of activity and ignorant happiness with their children.
What about you? You keep crying about not being able to afford the Steam Machine. RAM memory. Housing. Rent. Healthcare. Videogames at their normal price. Enough protein, meat, good food. Going out to the cinema anytime you wanted, any restaurant. A home at 19 years old like the average baby boomer did, instead, the average American Citizen is getting their first home at 54 years old today. The fertility rate went from 7+ to 1.5, and it isn’t because of the lies the Jeffrey Epstein Class told you, like blaming women getting jobs and becoming independent, or that this economical gap is normal.
You are just a moron who benefits the Jeffrey Epstein Class by trying to distract people with Dr. Fauci. You want people to keep looking sideways instead of up.
Your president is a pedophile, and him and his family and every single one of his followers will pay for the great amount of pain and suffering you’ve brought upon innocent people for so long. Being anonymous in the Internet won’t protect you anymore. It’s so easy to spot insane dipshits like you in real life, and open their heads to the truth.
At the end of the day, is it thanks to your friction and stupidity that democratic socialists like Zohran Mandami and Claire Valdez are conquering your country from within. You will have free healthcare, affordable housing and more education whether you like it or not. People like Zohran will be your future president.
You are a broke pedophile apologist who spends his days commenting pro-MAGA retarded shit online instead of spending time with your friends or your children. You’re already dead. Why should we listen to you at all, y’know?
