Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.

It follows a review which found depictions of choking were “rife” on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.

Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.

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    Jfc more conservative pearl clutching censorship laws in supposedly developed countries? What a time to be alive.

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      Don’t worry, it’s not the Conservatives, it’s the Labour Government implementing this!

      Good thing Labour will never be anything like the Tories amirite fellow chokers?

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      I’m a fairly progressive liberal, and I don’t think this is an entirely bad idea as it can be a dangerous practice. It’s so prevalent in porn (especially the free stuff those new to sex are likely to start with) that it makes it seem an almost routine part of sexual activity. The more aggressive young people sometimes will then pressure their partners to try it without really understanding the limits, potentially leading to deadly results.

      I honestly don’t know if this happens much - if at all - so I admit I may indeed be “pearl clutching,” and am open to being proven wrong. As things stand, however, I don’t see how allowing the act to be so frequently portrayed can be seen as a net positive.

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        Then don’t look it up. My partner likes to be seriously choked during sex…what you gonna arrest me for making my partner cum?

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          what you gonna arrest me for making my partner cum?

          It might be the endgame at this point, who knows. We’re currently at “actors doing plays and people watching plays might become illegal”.

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            That is a seriously problematic study with few controls and a small sample size.

            Pilots regularly train in for hypoxia in hyperbaric chambers, losing consciousness repeatedly to train.

            Consent and education are important, but safely engaging in breath play is very unlikely to give your partner brain damage.

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              Yes but no. You’re not supposed to lose consciousness during those trainings. Generally if you do, it’s a failure and you have to do it again. The point is to be able to recognize hypoxia and respond before you lose consciousness.

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              This is patently false. It cause brain death period. Perhaps you can argue it is not that big of a deal because of the brains ability to rewire itself once you have destroyed a portion of it

              People do all kinds a bad activities for the brain so this is really nothing new.

              One person’s breath play (so gross to minimize it this way) is another person’s sexual violence.

              Edit: I would also like to point out frequency. The frequency of preferred sexual activity dwarfs the training you are talking about. Seems like a convenient and not thought out excuse.

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                One person’s breath play (so gross to minimize it this way) is another person’s sexual violence.

                Well, yeah, all forms of sex without consent are rape. This isn’t really saying anything.

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          I’ve NEVER “looked it up,” but it seems to be an almost mandatory part of most videos produced anymore - along with the usual several positions that must be assumed, and ending virtually every video in a facial. They all look the same.

          Well okay, did the last time I bothered looking for porn videos regularly. It’s been quite a while since I just couldn’t seem to avoid shit like that. Text stories are my porn anymore.

          I don’t GAF what you & your partner prefer to do in your private time. Conflating that with porn is both disingenuous, and possibly telling of how highly you think of yourself.

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            I mentioned what my partner and I do because at what point do these ridiculous laws stop? Right now, it’s just porn, but then it’s what you do in the privacy of your bedroom.

            Choking has not been a big thing in porn. There’s a shit ton of porn so of course there’s a lot of choking porn, doesn’t mean it’s the main thing.

            And positions now? What are you a nun? Does doggy bother you? Does Cowgirl? And highly of myself? Nah, I’ve been having a healthy sex life for 15 yrs…I’m just confident in my abilities.

            You’re the one coming off highly of themselves. Like we should care that you get bothered by sex between 2 or more consenting adults.

            Like, where do folks like you get this entitlement? That you can tell the rest of us what to do? Leave us alone. Leave others alone. Maybe worry about the pastors and government officials raping kids?

            High horse riding.

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        Well, where are all those deaths caused by choking during sex because of porn? I would bet that many more visits to er are caused by trying to emulate the sex in the bath tube while having a couple wine glasses around scenes so typical in ‘romantic’ movies/shows, than by all the kinks seen in porn together.

        Parents should, and I’m aware many do, tell their children that tv, movies, porn… are meant to entertain, not teach, and they are very different from how real life things work.

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        where the fuck do you source your porn from so that choking is so prevalent ?! When looking for this sort of content it’s super hard to find some…

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    “We’ve found a lot of videos online, and we’re going to keep watching until you stop making them!”

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    Search: How to do the Heimlich maneuver? YouTube: sorry this video has been deleted for depicting scenes of people choking.

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    Penetration itself can be viewed as an act of violence and the government should probably put everyone who has thought about it on a surveillance list.

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    I am… Rather older than most of you, in all probability. My partner likes being choked; not hard, not actually cutting off air or blood, but the sensation of hands or an arm around their throat. They also like being caned, and spanked; I’m into fairly serious rope bondage (as a rope top) and CNC.

    Under British law, a large percentage of the sexual activities that we both enjoy together would be criminal offenses.

    For what it’s worth, in the 1920s, oral sex was considered shocking to moral sensibilities, perverted, an affront against nature, and grotesquely obscene. I suspect that the view from the year 2100–should humanity survive that long–will see choking in much the same way.

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      It sure seems like the puritans are in charge these days. And their using kids to ram through whatever the fuck they want. As long as no one is getting hurt, I dont really see what business it is of any government what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. I mean, even if you were choking her out, as long as it was what she wanted, its really up to you two to take on the risks.

      I dont understand it, but who cares? Im not in the room. Its nothing to do with me, or anyone else. I cant help but feel this is the beginning of something a bit more sinister. Maybe someday soon, blow jobs will be looked down upon again. Or far more likely, being gay will be looked down upon again. Cos thats where these weirdos always look to when they talk about things “corrupting the youth”. A bit of slap and tickle first, attack the LGBT crowd next under the guise of protecting the children/young people. “Youre not gay, youve just seen too many blowjobs, Timmy. Youll be alright after we send you to a re-education camp.”…

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        Won’t be any kids to protect soon as the raging inequality continues to rise and people become completely unable to afford them.

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      I’ve never been choked, but I like to hold my breath right as I’m about to ejaculate (cause it makes the orgasm stronger for some reason), so I could absolutely see the appeal. So long as it’s consentual, I see no issue with choking on sex.

      The US and UK are in a race to see who can out-Fash the other.

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    I can’t help but feeling as though the exact same pearl clutching wieners are behind this as the growing attempts at overall porn ban, as though restriction of access to the content will somehow cut the legs out from under the already widespread (albeit uncommon) practice.

    To wit, people aren’t choking each other during sex or risking David Carradine’ing themselves while wanking because of some shit-production porn, they’re doing it because it’s enjoyable to them (choker and choke-ee). I’m not going to kinkshame except to say that there’s no method of getting a head-rush that I’d personally recommend, but based on what sex-choke enjoyers that I know have said, it makes them cum extra-hard. So… there’s that, the mega-cums.

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      Choking causes permanent brain damage. MRI scans prove the brain has to rewire itself due to massive cell death. Also, the majority of it is man choking women so it has serious implications of fucked up power dynamics. To top it off the vast majority of choking is non-consensual.

      Even if it is consensual the long term effects are likely dementia along with other serious and progressive neurological conditions.

      Are you going to volunteer taking care of hundreds of thousands of choking related dementia patients. Whose is going to pay for this considering this level of care can run hundreds of thousands of dollars a year.

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        Porn is acting. Play. Or maybe you think everyone that gets shot in a movie is actually killed during recording?

        There’s no point arguing that “choking is bad”. I’m pretty sure any sane person would agree.

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      Only porn allowed will be missionary position?

      No. I think it’s a step by step approach, that will go further than that. After only missionary, they’ll make the actors get married before having any sex, all under the blankets and as clothed as possible, no condom or pulling out allowed either, and at the end of the scene it has to show the beautiful baby born nine months after. No gay porn, of course, or trans, interracial, more than to people (man™️ and woman™️)… sex is for procreation! How you dare enjoying it, you sinner!

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    If the argument for the ban is that depiction normalizes it, then there should be a ban on violence in all media, right?

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    The morality police in the UK strike again. They’re slowly turning into Saudi Arabia the longer they keep this up.

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    I suppose I would file this one under massive sex education failure, if youths are having to learn about sex from porn there’s already a problem.

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    This is in direct response to some recent studies that claimed that chocking is the second most common cause of stroke in women under 40. Other studied found that there is no safe amount of oxygen deprivation, any chocking leads to brain damage. Other risks of choking are difficulty swallowing, incontinence, seizures, memory problems, depression, anxiety and miscarriage.

    What happened is that porn normalized chocking. It used to be limited to the “hard core” types of porn but now it’s mainstream and kids that grew up watching it think it’s just normal part of sex. Most women asked about it say that they don’t enjoy it but do it “for their partner’s pleasure”.

    So yeah, the government treats it as a public health issue and bans it.

    I’m not a scientists, I didn’t review all those studies and frankly I don’t care one way of the other. Just wanted to give people some context.

    You can read more about it here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jul/07/no-safe-way-risks-of-choking-during-sex

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      porn normalized chocking

      I’m not sold on the “porn normalized XYZ”, or non porn either. There’s plenty of content of all kinds showing all kind of things that would be deemed dangerous, wrong, lethal, immoral, cruel, etc. but somehow, it’s only porn and kinks we’re talking about. If the prevalence of something in easily accessible media was a thing, I’d have a thing or two to tell about cops choking/gasing/beating up people laying on the ground.

      I’m more concerned by the amount of people that consider fictional content to be guidelines for how they actually live their life. It seems that there’s enough of them to warrant censoring weird shit, but as long as this side of the issue is not addressed, this will not stop.

      When I was younger (yes… classic one) a lot of people were worried that younger generation could not distinguish fiction from reality. And we didn’t even have realistic fiction, too. Now that we do, it seems that too many people consider “normalisation” through any media the natural course of things. Kinda like video game making people violent… only when it is convenient.

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      Finally one single comment nuancing this instead of just going “wtf censorship!!!”. Women are literally feeling pressured to get choked during sex because we have a sick porn industry thriving on depicting women as an object you can treat in any way you want. This is a fucking disgusting cultural development and moat people here (99% men obviously) are defending it. What you do at home in consent is up to you, but you guys must realize that the way we depict women in porn will shape the culture of how men expects women to behave, and what obscure shit women feel they are expected to put up with.

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      First they came for the Chokers , And I did not speak out Because I like to breath

      Then they came for the Foot fanatics , And I did not speak out Because I was not into feet

      Then they came for the thigh highs , And I did not speak out Because I was not into socks

      Then they came for the Brazilian cake farts , And there was no one left To speak out for me

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        Like, I get it, but this but unironically. The UK has already put a bathroom ban out for trans folks. How long before they ban trans porn because it’s considered harmful? How long before they start to label other trans things as adult and ban those too?

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    I already don’t like that kind of shit, it’s an immediate turn-off for me.

    But - I also know there’s a whole kink around it, and as long as it’s consensual…who tf cares?

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    I don’t disagree that it’s troubling how mainstream choking is in modern porn. It’s definitely been a huge shift. There’s nothing against it as a fetish, but it being a fetish with potential harmful consequences suggests that it should be in the same category as BDSM - something which can be problematic unless it’s done as an exercise in trust between partners with full informed consent.

    And there have been plenty of seemingly not agenda-led studies which suggest that teen boys and girls are both picking up a lot of what they consider to be “normal” about sex from porn.

    And not even talking to each other about it. IIRC, there was one such study which had both boys and girls engaging in a particular behaviour (I forget exactly which, maybe even choking), and neither party actively enjoyed the behaviour, they were just doing it because they thought that’s what you do and therefore what their partner wanted.

    But is the solution to ban porn which features choking? Firstly, I don’t see how this could in any way be effective. How would you possibly enforce it? Are police really going to raid people’s homes based on suspicion that they’ve got a nowadays-vanilla porn video on their harddrive? The police literally don’t have enough resources to investigate and prosecute everybody creating and sharing child porn. And now they’re supposed to go after everybody who visits PornHub?

    Secondly, we’re basically talking about a de-facto porn ban because, as the consultation itself noted, that describes pretty much all porn made in the last 10-15 years.

    I’m not sure what the solution is. I mean, talking about the difference bewteen porn and sex is something that should be part of sex education at school. But I kind of assume it already is? It would be weird if it weren’t in 2025.

    Perhaps it would be worthwhile to engage with creators themselves? I know that several porn companies used to put disclaimers before their videos saying that there’s a difference between porn sex and real sex and talking about consent. Several BDSM porn producers also have pre and post-shoot interviews with the performers and make sure they talk on camera about safe words & gestures and consent.

    But then that’s something that’s probably not going to be terribly effective in any case and which would require absolutely everybody to get on board, which would have been basically impossible back when it was only really studios producing content, and 100% impossible now that OnlyFans etc are the way that most performers make and distribute porn.

    I don’t think it’s an easy question to answer, TBH, but I’m pretty sure that “ban all the porn” isn’t the correct solution.

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    If I didn’t know how exploitative the current porn industry is I’d defend the choking but holy shit producers are fucking vile.