• Wheaties [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      This bit really really exemplifies that:

      you helped Trump speed up the process of destroying this unsustainable system

      Like. Ok. Then why are you mad at a third party voter? You admit the system is unsustainable! Why should I take the strategic, pragmatic approach when voting in something you admit is already doomed? Does a Harris administration somehow make it all sustainable? And if it does, why couldn’t she have done that when she was in Biden’s cabinet?

      I keep seeing this bazaar combination of fantastical idealism and so-called “pragmatic realism” in liberal discourse. Like, when they chastise us for making “unrealistic” policy asks; You can’t ask for socialized medicine! Those in-bread rurals will never allow it! Also, we need gun control now.

      Or, when they say we can have nice things, we just need to give Democrats consistent victories in the House, Senate, and Presidency for the next four election cycles. Really??? That’s your idea of a “realistic” solution? Under this fuckinsg constitution?

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      I think it’s worse, I think they actually believe that the status quo is fundamentally good and that it must be maintained at all costs. A cynical actor might change their stance once things have gotten sufficiently worse, but these people will dig in and fight to the death.

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    She didn’t chase them. They chased her. She didn’t promise them anything or concede any political points.

    You have literally no way of knowing who “chased” who, and she didn’t need to concede any points to people who already want the same shit as her.

    Fucking clowns.

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    When the first two options are pro- genocide fascists, there’s a startling number of Americans who can’t imagine choosing a third option.

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    The average democrat voter was already against Israel when this picture was taken at the dnc. Harris blew it bad. The party is more out of touch with the voters than ever. And they don’t care because they’re a bourgeois party with bourgeois interests and bourgeois politicians.

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    Adults are talking here sweaty. Go back to your xbox while we make the difficult decision between red fascist and blue fascist.

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    Because they are styling themselves as the responsible stewards of the American Empire and don’t want to actually do anything against it. Their grievances with Trump is that he is inadvertently damaging the Empire.

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    For some reason, people want to believe in fairy tales so badly, we’re very good at hiding the truth from ourselves, probably partially because reality is a lot more work, and a lot less glamorous. The thing is, every character in our fairy tales are us, and it’s up to us to figure out which character we’re willing to work to support. Even fascism requires a majority consent.

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    Nothing will get them to understand that their lesser-evilism had them shushing genocide as an inconvenient truth. That’s how far off the edge they had gotten. They’ll say any bullshit to support their position because it’s already shot through. They did the meme. They voted for genocide. The system they joined in order to try to change it “from the inside” was genocide.

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    Trumps far from good, but he’s done significantly more to get ceasefires than Biden even pretended to. The Democrats may very well not be the less-evil when it comes to Gaza, so I don’t think Jay’s really thinking through everything he’s saying.

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      Remember when he said Rafah was his red line then when they bombed Rafah he pretended he never said that

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    I have completely come to the conclusion that committed liberals in 2025 are too pathetic and servile to survive in nature. They would stay put in a doorless burning building and cook to death if someone in a uniform told them it was against the rules to leave. They would scold you for leaving and try to hold you down in the name of civility and order.

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    This is especially funny having studied history of Spain at high school:

    From the Wikipedia article of Turnismo:

    In Spanish politics, the turnismo, turno pacífico or simply turno (Spanish for “turn” or “shift”) refers to an informal two-party system of government within the constitutional monarchy of the Restoration. It consisted of the alternation in government of the two dynastic parties (the Conservative and the Liberal parties) through systematic electoral fraud which ensured that the party that called the elections always won