• earthworm@sh.itjust.works
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    18 days ago

    Tl;dr: Meta has to use Gemini, because their own AI can’t keep up. And then Google cut off their access.

    In yet another sign that his company is seriously struggling to keep up in the AI race, Google informed Meta earlier this year that it was cutting Meta off from the Gemini AI capacity it needed, the Financial Times reports.

    Ironically, the lack of access to Gemini — which is far superior to anything Meta has built in-house — slowed down Meta’s own AI projects, including data moderation and customer services, highlighting how heavily Zuckerberg’s company is leaning on its competitors as its own AI efforts languish.

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      16 days ago

      I hope I see Facebook, I’m not respecting suckerbergs rebranding attempt, fail and go by the way of the fucking dodo within my lifetime. I genuinely hope this see through guppy fascist piece of shit dies penniless in a gutter in San Francisco

    • bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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      18 days ago

      Gemini was supposed to be catching scammers for them.
      But when caught, meta only charged them more, it didn’t delete the accounts.

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    18 days ago

    i kinda feel sorry for Yann LeCun and his team at FAI. he’s been saying from the beginning that LLMs are not the way forward for AI research as a field, and that has kept Meta from competing in this gold rush effectively. world models, multi-modality, etc are fine and good research but aren’t here to compete with Claude Code or even as effective at being good enough for stuff like search.

    not to be too reductionist, but it’s a tough spot when your head of AI is insisting that this tech has no future when there is a literal $T market for it.

    the irony is that these “frontier labs” like OpenAI and Anthropic have basically dropped every greenfield research project that doesn’t directly support their “agentic AI” infrastructure (ie endless Markdown prompts + a while loop) while the labs working on the true frontier are seen as failures because they can’t make a bazillion bucks burning megawatts of energy to replace their front end devs.

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        18 days ago

        yeah, i know the argument you’re trying to make, but that doesn’t change the actual capital and labor being used to create these things. whether it’s profitable once the investors run out of money is another story.

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    18 days ago

    The revelation is bound to sting. Despite committing over half a trillion dollars over the next two years, the company’s flailing AI efforts have been plagued by rock bottom morale, infighting, high-level executive departures, and related PR crises.

    No wonder everything is shit, when Zuckerberg was convinced that building a big enough LLM he would achieve strong AI! 🤣 🤣
    AFAIK Meta had some of the biggest investments just a couple of years ago in AI on that basis! 🤥 🤡

    Ah well, Zuckerberg may be stupid, but he will not suffer much, Facebook is still a money machine, and META can afford the losses, just as they could afford the losses on the Metaverse.

    It’s worse for OpenAI, Palantir and SpaceX with XAI, because they don’t have a money machine to save them when the AI business fails.

    Google, Microsoft and Meta (facebook) will be OK.

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    18 days ago

    I’m confused, why is Google telling customers they can’t use it’s AI? Can they not keep up with demand?

    That seems way more interesting a story than Meta relying on a competitor.

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      17 days ago

      It’s likely they were scraping the gemini output to train their own models, which gives very “we have gemini at home” vibes, and I don’t have any sympathy for Google when they also stole their training data from everyone. But you can see why they don’t want to help Fb with that.