I wonder how often cars injure people i-love-not-thinking

  • Rom [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    21 days ago

    “Capable of going 72mph” is like the “enough drugs to kill 20,000 people” shit the media does with drug busts. Scare tactics to make something seem scarier than it actually is

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    21 days ago

    HOLY SHIT 116 km/h? Bicycle parts totally cannot handle that kind of stress!

    Oh, those disgusting e-bike sites. I mean there’s so many of them, though. Which one? Which one did he buy this from?

  • regul [any]@hexbear.net
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    21 days ago

    As I’ve posted before, I’m definitely of two minds about these aliexpress e-motorcycles.

    On the one hand, anything that’s not a car is good.

    On the other hand, these are usually bought by people whose first criterion in selecting a bike is “how fast does it go”, which, if you think about how car owners who do that act, makes it very obvious they’re probably going to use them in a way that’s dangerous to themselves and others. Sure, yeah, they’re not going to hurt as many people as if they had a car, but also whipping around on sidewalks at 30mph is a great way to stoke up reactionary over-regulation that is going to kill the access to a great car alternative for a lot of people.

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      21 days ago

      They are the only affordable option to get around the city. The speed mentioned by the police sounds like nonsense, maybe they caught someone going half of that.

      If you look legitimate options that go more than 25kmh you have to pay like 10 times as much and some are getting into car territory.

      Now maybe 25kmh should be enough for anyone but I don’t see much willingness for that discussion outside of vehicles primarily used by youth and migrants.

      • regul [any]@hexbear.net
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        21 days ago

        London is actually rolling out speed cameras for 20/30mph zones.

        And these e-motos are affordable, but an e-bike with a 250, 500, or 750W motor is also affordable. I think a lot of people just have speed/power brain and are trying to maximize the wrong thing when they transition to electric mobility devices. And I think this is partially out of ignorance, but also driven by some anti-social tendencies.

        • AstroStelar [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          21 days ago

          The affordability argument falls flat here in the Netherlands, where bikes, e-bikes and mopeds are widespread, and where most trips can be easily done with a regular bicycle.

          But e-bikes tend to be more expensive and have a reputation as something for well-off working adults or pensioners. For youth, these “fatbikes” as we call them are mainly status symbols and I suspect they’re viewed as a stepping stone to a full car, which makes me worry that we’ll see the SUV-ification of bicycles getting bigger and more car-like.

          I haven’t had bad experiences with the drivers of these, but because they’re trending and mostly owned by naive/reckless youngsters, they get stolen so often that insurers won’t cover them. There’s also the usual “Chinese quality” talking points.

  • hellinkilla [they/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    21 days ago

    I am pro free speech. However. Everybody who complain about ebikes:

    • BANNED from using all delivery services
    • their own personal vehicles have tracking installed above and beyond what is considered normal which will charge them for any violation no matter how small of any law or even local convention. 1" too close to the intersection = dingdingding
    • if caught attempting to use other vehicle to get around this, they will have ankle monitor with GPS, and they have to report anytime they go faster than jogging pace how they did that
    • violations result with both fees and restrictions on driving. Your car is out of service, or it will only work in a small geographical area.
    • repeat violations result in loss of vehicle, license etc. With possibility of ankle.monitor back on for cheaters.

    Using a device to test the top speed of suspect bikes, police said it found that of more than 100 stopped, fewer than a quarter were legally compliant.

    Fuck let us apply this test to cars. If your car can go faster than the lowest posted limit for any jurisdiction (city, state, nation) in which it is located: BUSTED. That shit gets donated to metal recycling. But you are given a very compliant e bike for free.

    All these anti e bike people are racists, I will never be convinced otherwise.

  • Nacarbac [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    21 days ago

    Eh, yeah cars are worse, sure. I cycle everyday, on an e-bike, so I want everyone else taken off the street - especially other cycl- I’ll see at least one massive, overpowered, e-bike speeding down the mixed pedestrian/cycle path everyday (yesterday one was being followed by a straight up motorcycle, and now that I think about it I’m curious what happened when they went through the tunnel that had twenty kids being taught how to ride a bike, which is a terrible place to teach them but I think they were escaping the heat…).

    That said, while it’s a bit scary being anywhere near them when they’re bombing around… I haven’t really seen them try and show off how well they can weave through foot traffic like a few close calls I’ve seen from Tour de France wannabes. And they haven’t actually tried to show off how they could kill me if they wanted like quite a few cars have done to me.

  • Operation Wrangel was launched in November in response to concerns from the public about the risks posed by e-bikes and scooters going through pedestrianised areas.

    Weird, i’m a concerned member of the public, how do I get my waspy karenesque bullshit to launch a police operation??