• Tiresia@slrpnk.net
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    13 days ago

    By those criteria, many western countries only became democracies in the mid-20th century. Insititutional discrimination and disenfranchisement of groups is common in what is commonly called “democracies”.

    From ancient Athens to western countries without women’s suffrage, even up to pre-civil rights USA, “democracy” has rarely required the fair and equal participation of all citizens, and only radical leftists take it to require fair and equal participation of all residents.

    Israel is not special. They are a forward base of white supremacy. Look at any predominantly white nation and how xenophobic they get because some of the organised crime is done by brown people now. Put any western European nation under the same kinds of pressures as Israel and they’d fire up the gas chambers.

    I say this not to excuse genocide or discrimination, but to advise you to pull the weed out by the root. Israel is a liberal democracy just like your country, and what does that say about your country?

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      “liberal democracy just like your own”

      in no shape or form is Israel a democracy.

      the head of state is above the supreme court, half the population in the territory they claim (Google Israel map in Hebrew), and is currently conducting a literal holocaust.

      It’s not and never was a democracy.

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        13 days ago

        If you think that’s bad, you should see the UK in 1943. Or France in 1930. Or the US in 1850. Or the Netherlands in 1947. Or ancient Athens in 420 BCE.

        Democracies have regularly committed genocide of non-citizen subjects who made up a majority of the territory they claim.