• schmorp@slrpnk.net
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    23 days ago

    I’m not cool with being inside any made-up lines. Fighting for any of those mental constructs perpetuates the problem, even though it might be tempting.

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      23 days ago

      OK? I’m not cool with living under capitalism, but I’ll still die if I don’t get a job. At some point we have to live with the fact that social and political conditions are going to happen to us regardless of how we feel about them. You don’t get to opt out of concentration camps.

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        23 days ago

        … And about the camps: if you are in any country backing Israel or the US you are currently supporting concentation camps. So don’t tell me radical pacifism is worse than what everybody is doing already by their non-revolt.

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          23 days ago

          This is just whataboutism. You’re not actually making a point, just deflecting.

          I would actually 100% support a UN peacekeeping mission in Gaza. I think that the people of Palestine should be defended from Isreal’s genocide, and if it takes tanks and guns to do that, I believe that’s what we should do.

          Doesn’t mean I like it. The world I want is one where Isreal isn’t engaged in a genocide in the first place. But that’s not the world we have. You’re not making anyone’s life better by sticking your head in the sand.

          In your other reply you suggested that I should just refuse to eat and simply die because I want capitalism to end. Who does that help? That’s a serious question, and I actually want you to answer it; if I kill myself rather than engage with capitalism, what have I done to bring about its end? Whose life have I improved?

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      23 days ago

      I think, in their example, the person would be literally fighting for survival, not for made up lines.