• CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      2 months ago

      Ok, so it is a troll

      And that’s your actual position.

      No, this is my position

      The German “Lefts” complain of bad “leaders” in their party, give way to despair, and even arrive at a ridiculous “negation” of “leaders”. But in conditions in which it is often necessary to hide “leaders” underground, the evolution of good “leaders”, reliable, tested and authoritative, is a very difficult matter; these difficulties cannot be successfully overcome without combining legal and illegal work, and without testing the “leaders”, among other ways, in parliaments. Criticism—the most keen, ruthless and uncompromising criticism—should be directed, not against parliamentarianism or parliamentary activities, but against those leaders who are unable—and still more against those who are unwilling—to utilise parliamentary elections and the parliamentary rostrum in a revolutionary and communist manner.

      • starkillerfish [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        2 months ago

        How exactly is Mamdani using parliamentary election in a revolutionary / communist manner? What you quote is specifically calling to criticize people like him. Do you even see what you are copy pasting?

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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          By wedding the normalization of socialism with rudimentary state power to affect the lives of working-class people, the average New Yorker believes the two-year rent freeze is a socialist policy that has been advanced by socialists; whatever theoretical or definitional quibbles you have with that are irrelevant in the face of the real-world shift it has created in the minds of average Americans; it’s even irrelevant if you are someone who claims Mamdani did it accidentally or purposefully; what matters is that “parliamentary elections” has led to the generation of rudimentary class consciousness and working class interest in the concept of socialism

          It’s the job the socialists to take advantage of this situation, to make corrections, to advance and wed the theoretical with the excitement, and to push for more demonstrations of how easily state power can be wielded to improve the lives of the working class

          The persona of Mamdani is irrelevant; what matters is the effect and excitement he generates, which should be treated by us as fuel to feed real socialist fires, not as a permission slip to scoff at rudimentarily condition-setting developments, that are necessary for the eventual emergence of real working-class organizing

          Also that quote is clearly talking about Ultra-left election boycotters, who believed ANY participation in the legal and electoral system of a capitalist polity was unconscionable, as that troll above aptly parodies

          these difficulties cannot be successfully overcome without combining legal and illegal work, and without testing the “leaders”, among other ways, in parliaments. Criticism—the most keen, ruthless and uncompromising criticism—should be directed, not against parliamentarianism or parliamentary activities, but against those leaders who are unable—and still more against those who are unwilling

          I agree with Lenin that what matters is the orientation of that participation and its proximity to the illegal element of organizing (embodied in this case by the Gaza genocide protests), and whether it is oriented toward the interests of the working class or the bourgeoisie, and the two-year rent freeze is the proof of concept that the orientation of the Mamdani phenomenon is pointing toward the working class, at least for now, assuming socialists actually get off their asses and take advantage of the phenomenon

      • Nondiegetic (any) @lemmygrad.ml
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        2 months ago

        You might be able to talk your way into feeling ok with supporting people who commit genocide, but it won’t work for everyone.

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                You explicitly support Democrat party members, who actively support the Democrat party.

                You support genocide, as long as it’s politically expedient.

                You even use the same “The Adults in the Room are Making Tough Decisions” thought terminating cliches the democrats use.

                • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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                  You explicitly support Democrat party members, who actively support the Democrat party.

                  Like who? Who are the creatures of the DNC that I support?

                  You support genocide, as long as it’s politically expedient.

                  Pull up the comment then, back up your shit

                  You even use the same “The Adults in the Room are Making Tough Decisions”

                  You’re a twelve-year-old who should be making map-size comparisons between GTA 5 & 6, instead of butchering Lenin on a niche internet forum

                  • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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                    The report system isn’t for when your argument is backed into a corner. “Harassment, smears and open hostility” the person I see being hostile is you. Take 24 hours off.

                  • Nondiegetic (any) @lemmygrad.ml
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                    Everyone of the social fascist candidates you support runs as a Democrat, and funnels support and money to the Democrats.

                    You support people who support people who commit genocide.

                    “You’re a twelve-year-old” this is the same adults in the room comment again.

                    Are you running out of material?