• CrawlMarks [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Do we have enough working navy to try to interdict shipping with them while we’re are tripping on our dicks in the gulf? We seem to be at a unprecedented weak moment right now.

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          Cuba is within the US’ direct reach.

          Despite how weak the US is right now, it’s still a global power. But most importantly, the US doesn’t care about civillian cost. They’ll just bomb Cuba repeatedly until the government relents and gives up to save its people.

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      We will have to see if the US will allow the Cuban Communist Party to have the same degree of control over the new market economy that China had during Deng era reforms.

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        They could had an agreement like the one Obama had with Raul Castro. The US ease the sanctions and embargo and Cuba allows US companies to operate within Cuba but under supervision of the Cuban Goverment (which was very close to the one they had with Nicaragua until Biden ruined that).

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        If Cuba slips an oil company some money does the US have the will to disrupt other Cuban operations? I can see us having a fairly rapid decline in imperial power here.

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          There’s a large gusano diaspora which will be very vocal in its want to destroy the Cuban revolution.

          Lil Narco Rubio has been frothing at the mouth at the thought of destroying communism in LatAm

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      it only worked cause they had the bomb (among other factors) you just get economically colonised if you try it without having some real power projection first. the scenario isn’t comparable at all really

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          The US is still most likely the number 1 military in the world, primarily because China isn’t interested in projecting power across the globe (if it was, the US would’ve had to retreat from Asia + Africa a while ago)

          Iran, with all its abilities, still lost so many people to the Epstein empire. Cuba doesn’t have any of those advantages.

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      Cuba is too small too close to the US and it didn’t work well in Venezuela. If things work out well and Cuba doesn’t invaded, we can see Cuba becoming similar to Nicaragua who went from Traditional Marxism-Leninism to Democratic Socialism with Sandinismo.

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        I don’t know enough venuzeula but I am under the impression that the Cuban conditions are fairly distinct. Which is why things worked so well for them in the first place.

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      Difference between Cuba and China is massive. It won’t work.

      Also, I don’t think we need Dengism as a separate term. Deng helped build Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.

      He just analysed the material conditions to understand China couldn’t survive without reforms to the economy. Creating a separate branching ideology out of it is projecting this image that SWCC could be built without “Dengism”.

      Cuba didn’t just survive, it thrived without a liberal economy. And it thrived despite the sanctions. Now it’s being forced to regress so the socialist state can be dismantled.

      China didn’t regress, it altered course. Cuba didn’t alter course, it’s being forced to regress.

      But have faith in the Cuban people. I don’t think there’s any country in the world more ideologically disciplined than the Cubans. They have firsthand seen what socialism means, and they’ll know what to do when the American empire implodes.