Here’s the thing, how many of us live in Maine? Not enough to swing the election either way I’m sure. Whether he gets condemned or defended literally affects nothing to Jack shit.
That’s not what is relevant about him. Discussing any electoralism anywhere in this country is a waste of time for everyone invovled. The reason why he’s worth discussing is because it outs closet nazis and chauvinists. Anyone who defends Platner and says stuff like “I don’t care what he thinks, as long as he votes for healthcare!” can be placed on a list for re-education or wall after the revolution. Discussing him is helpful in left spaces for identifying those in need of education and bullying. Every person defending him would vote for Hitler. He’s a literal litmus test for identifying AOCIA types and social fascists.
What matters is “socialists” burning their reputations to uphold a literal Nazi war criminal for NO REASON. The problem is people here, and in other left spaces, making up excuses for nazism. What matters is the huge portion of the “western left” who are actual social fascists, and this is a very easy way to tell them apart from the real ones.
What matters is that every “socialist” in America pushing Platner needs to be added to a list of DO NOT TRUST.
Well I don’t support him either. I just don’t put much mental energy towards him at all.
I’ll be honest idk what the fuck the guys angle is. Like is he just a straight up fascist doing entryism or is he just a weird dumbass with incoherent politics (not like we got a lot of those in the glorious U$A)? Regardless he seems like a bad guy who’s not worth anyone’s support.
The relevant discussion around Platner in socialist spaces like this isn’t “should we vote for him or not”. It’s obvious that we should not even if we were doing electoralism as a strategy, which we should not. The relevant discussion around Platner is “he’s a social fascist. Anyone defending him here needs immediate re-education or ban or wholesale mockery and derision”.
You and the electoralist social fascists keep trying to make the discussion the first thing, when in fact it’s the latter. The discussions will keep happening until everyone accepts the latter and squishies here either learn and grow, or leave to find a nazi echo-chamber where they can do third-way liberal-fascist neo-bernardism without the cynical tankie “doomers” criticizing their fourth reich attempts.
So you agree he’s a social fascist, but you find your fellow travelers defending him acceptable or boring? I don’t find that boring, I find that extremely important, fundamental to the left’s failures, disgusting and sickening and worthy of a fucking inquisition. It makes me not want to participate in the western left ever again and just go full on third worldist, because it shows western leftoids are basically all one step away from Hitlerism and have no international solidarity whatsoever. All the new Hitler has to do is offer up free healthcare and it’s a done deal, they all fall into line with the genocidal Democrat Party yet again.
Just a list of Western “leftists” who have defended Platner and downplayed being a Nazi mercenary:
Hasan Piker
Chapo Trap House
Democracy Now
The Young Turks
The Majority Report
Ryan Grim / Drop Site News
The Intercept
Jacobin Magazine
Current Affairs Magazine
Bernie Sanders / The Squad / AOC
Indivisible / Justice Democrats / every other Berniecrat PAC or organization
Literally the only “popular” leftoids pushing back on Platner was BadEmpanada and Brace Belden.
These are the most important figures of the “western left” such as it is. They ALL endorsed a Hitlerite. They ALL are completely untrustworthy. They’re not just “imperfect allies” they are literally stating, loud and clear, that they are our class enemies. They are the “imperfect allies” of the Democrats and Republicans who would happily see us dead.
Many on this site did. People who are now mods called Hamas and Hezbollah fascist on October 1, 2023. They were upvoted and the person they argued against was permanent banned.
In addition, people who have defended Mamdani, AOC, Platner and Sanders and electoralism generally remain a large part of the userbase who only sour long after the obvious occurs.
Just search Mamdani or Fetterman or Platner in search, sort by old, and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Originally these people were popular to mildly controversial and anybody calling them out was seen as a “crank”.
There was contentious threads on Platner on this site with struggle session rainbow lines and hundreds of comments. People arguing seriously that he didn’t know about the Nazi tattoo he got in Croatia.
Are we going to look inwards about this type of chauvinistic behavior? Can we reflect or just continue being smug and pretending we were always correct and didn’t repeatedly ban and ostracize the people who were actually correct.
it would go away instantly if the succ faction of the US left would stop defending him
Here’s the thing, how many of us live in Maine? Not enough to swing the election either way I’m sure. Whether he gets condemned or defended literally affects nothing to Jack shit.
That’s not what is relevant about him. Discussing any electoralism anywhere in this country is a waste of time for everyone invovled. The reason why he’s worth discussing is because it outs closet nazis and chauvinists. Anyone who defends Platner and says stuff like “I don’t care what he thinks, as long as he votes for healthcare!” can be placed on a list for re-education or wall after the revolution. Discussing him is helpful in left spaces for identifying those in need of education and bullying. Every person defending him would vote for Hitler. He’s a literal litmus test for identifying AOCIA types and social fascists.
This is the one good thing about his campaign tbh. All these radlibs showing their true colors to defend him.
Well if I lived in Maine I wouldn’t vote for him.
DOES NOT MATTER. VOTING DOES NOT MATTER.
What matters is “socialists” burning their reputations to uphold a literal Nazi war criminal for NO REASON. The problem is people here, and in other left spaces, making up excuses for nazism. What matters is the huge portion of the “western left” who are actual social fascists, and this is a very easy way to tell them apart from the real ones.
What matters is that every “socialist” in America pushing Platner needs to be added to a list of DO NOT TRUST.
Well I don’t support him either. I just don’t put much mental energy towards him at all.
I’ll be honest idk what the fuck the guys angle is. Like is he just a straight up fascist doing entryism or is he just a weird dumbass with incoherent politics (not like we got a lot of those in the glorious U$A)? Regardless he seems like a bad guy who’s not worth anyone’s support.
The relevant discussion around Platner in socialist spaces like this isn’t “should we vote for him or not”. It’s obvious that we should not even if we were doing electoralism as a strategy, which we should not. The relevant discussion around Platner is “he’s a social fascist. Anyone defending him here needs immediate re-education or ban or wholesale mockery and derision”.
You and the electoralist social fascists keep trying to make the discussion the first thing, when in fact it’s the latter. The discussions will keep happening until everyone accepts the latter and squishies here either learn and grow, or leave to find a nazi echo-chamber where they can do third-way liberal-fascist neo-bernardism without the cynical tankie “doomers” criticizing their fourth reich attempts.
Well yes he is a social fascist, I agree, as are most “progressives” on the USA.
So you agree he’s a social fascist, but you find your fellow travelers defending him acceptable or boring? I don’t find that boring, I find that extremely important, fundamental to the left’s failures, disgusting and sickening and worthy of a fucking inquisition. It makes me not want to participate in the western left ever again and just go full on third worldist, because it shows western leftoids are basically all one step away from Hitlerism and have no international solidarity whatsoever. All the new Hitler has to do is offer up free healthcare and it’s a done deal, they all fall into line with the genocidal Democrat Party yet again.
Just a list of Western “leftists” who have defended Platner and downplayed being a Nazi mercenary:
Hasan Piker
Chapo Trap House
Democracy Now
The Young Turks
The Majority Report
Ryan Grim / Drop Site News
The Intercept
Jacobin Magazine
Current Affairs Magazine
Bernie Sanders / The Squad / AOC
Indivisible / Justice Democrats / every other Berniecrat PAC or organization
Literally the only “popular” leftoids pushing back on Platner was BadEmpanada and Brace Belden.
These are the most important figures of the “western left” such as it is. They ALL endorsed a Hitlerite. They ALL are completely untrustworthy. They’re not just “imperfect allies” they are literally stating, loud and clear, that they are our class enemies. They are the “imperfect allies” of the Democrats and Republicans who would happily see us dead.
And yet the western left doesn’t spend 2 seconds before condemning Hamas.
I have never condemned Hamas so please leave me alone.
Many on this site did. People who are now mods called Hamas and Hezbollah fascist on October 1, 2023. They were upvoted and the person they argued against was permanent banned.
https://hexbear.net/comment/4036177
In addition, people who have defended Mamdani, AOC, Platner and Sanders and electoralism generally remain a large part of the userbase who only sour long after the obvious occurs.
https://hexbear.net/post/6442067
Just search Mamdani or Fetterman or Platner in search, sort by old, and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Originally these people were popular to mildly controversial and anybody calling them out was seen as a “crank”.
There was contentious threads on Platner on this site with struggle session rainbow lines and hundreds of comments. People arguing seriously that he didn’t know about the Nazi tattoo he got in Croatia.
https://hexbear.net/post/6495410
Are we going to look inwards about this type of chauvinistic behavior? Can we reflect or just continue being smug and pretending we were always correct and didn’t repeatedly ban and ostracize the people who were actually correct.
But I will never let the overwhelming majority of the western left and progressive liberals forget this.
“Ummm actshually they are homophobic Islamofascist”