That’s not what is relevant about him. Discussing any electoralism anywhere in this country is a waste of time for everyone invovled. The reason why he’s worth discussing is because it outs closet nazis and chauvinists. Anyone who defends Platner and says stuff like “I don’t care what he thinks, as long as he votes for healthcare!” can be placed on a list for re-education or wall after the revolution. Discussing him is helpful in left spaces for identifying those in need of education and bullying. Every person defending him would vote for Hitler. He’s a literal litmus test for identifying AOCIA types and social fascists.
What matters is “socialists” burning their reputations to uphold a literal Nazi war criminal for NO REASON. The problem is people here, and in other left spaces, making up excuses for nazism. What matters is the huge portion of the “western left” who are actual social fascists, and this is a very easy way to tell them apart from the real ones.
What matters is that every “socialist” in America pushing Platner needs to be added to a list of DO NOT TRUST.
Well I don’t support him either. I just don’t put much mental energy towards him at all.
I’ll be honest idk what the fuck the guys angle is. Like is he just a straight up fascist doing entryism or is he just a weird dumbass with incoherent politics (not like we got a lot of those in the glorious U$A)? Regardless he seems like a bad guy who’s not worth anyone’s support.
The relevant discussion around Platner in socialist spaces like this isn’t “should we vote for him or not”. It’s obvious that we should not even if we were doing electoralism as a strategy, which we should not. The relevant discussion around Platner is “he’s a social fascist. Anyone defending him here needs immediate re-education or ban or wholesale mockery and derision”.
You and the electoralist social fascists keep trying to make the discussion the first thing, when in fact it’s the latter. The discussions will keep happening until everyone accepts the latter and squishies here either learn and grow, or leave to find a nazi echo-chamber where they can do third-way liberal-fascist neo-bernardism without the cynical tankie “doomers” criticizing their fourth reich attempts.
So you agree he’s a social fascist, but you find your fellow travelers defending him acceptable or boring? I don’t find that boring, I find that extremely important, fundamental to the left’s failures, disgusting and sickening and worthy of a fucking inquisition. It makes me not want to participate in the western left ever again and just go full on third worldist, because it shows western leftoids are basically all one step away from Hitlerism and have no international solidarity whatsoever. All the new Hitler has to do is offer up free healthcare and it’s a done deal, they all fall into line with the genocidal Democrat Party yet again.
Just a list of Western “leftists” who have defended Platner and downplayed being a Nazi mercenary:
Hasan Piker
Chapo Trap House
Democracy Now
The Young Turks
The Majority Report
Ryan Grim / Drop Site News
The Intercept
Jacobin Magazine
Current Affairs Magazine
Bernie Sanders / The Squad / AOC
Indivisible / Justice Democrats / every other Berniecrat PAC or organization
Literally the only “popular” leftoids pushing back on Platner was BadEmpanada and Brace Belden.
These are the most important figures of the “western left” such as it is. They ALL endorsed a Hitlerite. They ALL are completely untrustworthy. They’re not just “imperfect allies” they are literally stating, loud and clear, that they are our class enemies. They are the “imperfect allies” of the Democrats and Republicans who would happily see us dead.
Literally the only “popular” leftoids pushing back on Platner was BadEmpanada and Brace Belden.
I agreed with you right up to here. First of all you do not have to hand it to BadEmpanada and he is in no way left. Also anyone that uses the “oid” suffix is very sus. Go the fuck out side dude.
These are the most important figures of the “western left” such as it is.
This is terminally online brainrot. These are not the “most important figures” anywhere in any sense. This is what happens when you are too terminally online.
I agreed with you right up to here. First of all you do not have to hand it to BadEmpanada and he is in no way left. Also anyone that uses the “oid” suffix is very sus. Go the fuck out side dude.
I will keep saying leftoid until the leftoids improve. They do not get the courtesy of even being called leftist. Hilarious to say I’M the sus one when there’s people in this thread downplaying and defending NAZISM. Explicitly.
Isn’t is damning how BE was better on this subject than half this website and the entirety of the American “left”? That just further proves my point of how pathetic they are.
This is terminally online brainrot. These are not the “most important figures” anywhere in any sense. This is what happens when you are too terminally online.
Bernie Sanders, nearly every single “leftist” media organization and all of the most popular “leftist” entertainers is not “online brainrot” it’s the entire “left”. There is no offline non-brain rotten western left, it doesn’t exist. There’s bernard staffers and hangers-on and there’s online radlibs. That’s it. Opportunists and their audience, made perfectly for each other.
And before you go there, yes actual principled commie groups do technically exist, I’m being a bit loose with “doesn’t exist” to just mean “is insignificantly small”. I’m in one of them. All of the organizations and streamers and politicians I mentioned are like 100 times more popular and bigger than our organization. We might as well not even exist, we’re 0.00001% of the country.
Next time if he’s so boring to you, just don’t say anything at all? Would be better than coming in and saying “I don’t care about Nazis being openly accepted among all of our supposed ‘allies’ actually, it’s boring”.
That’s not what is relevant about him. Discussing any electoralism anywhere in this country is a waste of time for everyone invovled. The reason why he’s worth discussing is because it outs closet nazis and chauvinists. Anyone who defends Platner and says stuff like “I don’t care what he thinks, as long as he votes for healthcare!” can be placed on a list for re-education or wall after the revolution. Discussing him is helpful in left spaces for identifying those in need of education and bullying. Every person defending him would vote for Hitler. He’s a literal litmus test for identifying AOCIA types and social fascists.
This is the one good thing about his campaign tbh. All these radlibs showing their true colors to defend him.
Well if I lived in Maine I wouldn’t vote for him.
DOES NOT MATTER. VOTING DOES NOT MATTER.
What matters is “socialists” burning their reputations to uphold a literal Nazi war criminal for NO REASON. The problem is people here, and in other left spaces, making up excuses for nazism. What matters is the huge portion of the “western left” who are actual social fascists, and this is a very easy way to tell them apart from the real ones.
What matters is that every “socialist” in America pushing Platner needs to be added to a list of DO NOT TRUST.
Well I don’t support him either. I just don’t put much mental energy towards him at all.
I’ll be honest idk what the fuck the guys angle is. Like is he just a straight up fascist doing entryism or is he just a weird dumbass with incoherent politics (not like we got a lot of those in the glorious U$A)? Regardless he seems like a bad guy who’s not worth anyone’s support.
The relevant discussion around Platner in socialist spaces like this isn’t “should we vote for him or not”. It’s obvious that we should not even if we were doing electoralism as a strategy, which we should not. The relevant discussion around Platner is “he’s a social fascist. Anyone defending him here needs immediate re-education or ban or wholesale mockery and derision”.
You and the electoralist social fascists keep trying to make the discussion the first thing, when in fact it’s the latter. The discussions will keep happening until everyone accepts the latter and squishies here either learn and grow, or leave to find a nazi echo-chamber where they can do third-way liberal-fascist neo-bernardism without the cynical tankie “doomers” criticizing their fourth reich attempts.
Well yes he is a social fascist, I agree, as are most “progressives” on the USA.
So you agree he’s a social fascist, but you find your fellow travelers defending him acceptable or boring? I don’t find that boring, I find that extremely important, fundamental to the left’s failures, disgusting and sickening and worthy of a fucking inquisition. It makes me not want to participate in the western left ever again and just go full on third worldist, because it shows western leftoids are basically all one step away from Hitlerism and have no international solidarity whatsoever. All the new Hitler has to do is offer up free healthcare and it’s a done deal, they all fall into line with the genocidal Democrat Party yet again.
Just a list of Western “leftists” who have defended Platner and downplayed being a Nazi mercenary:
Hasan Piker
Chapo Trap House
Democracy Now
The Young Turks
The Majority Report
Ryan Grim / Drop Site News
The Intercept
Jacobin Magazine
Current Affairs Magazine
Bernie Sanders / The Squad / AOC
Indivisible / Justice Democrats / every other Berniecrat PAC or organization
Literally the only “popular” leftoids pushing back on Platner was BadEmpanada and Brace Belden.
These are the most important figures of the “western left” such as it is. They ALL endorsed a Hitlerite. They ALL are completely untrustworthy. They’re not just “imperfect allies” they are literally stating, loud and clear, that they are our class enemies. They are the “imperfect allies” of the Democrats and Republicans who would happily see us dead.
I agreed with you right up to here. First of all you do not have to hand it to BadEmpanada and he is in no way left. Also anyone that uses the “oid” suffix is very sus. Go the fuck out side dude.
This is terminally online brainrot. These are not the “most important figures” anywhere in any sense. This is what happens when you are too terminally online.
I will keep saying leftoid until the leftoids improve. They do not get the courtesy of even being called leftist. Hilarious to say I’M the sus one when there’s people in this thread downplaying and defending NAZISM. Explicitly.
Isn’t is damning how BE was better on this subject than half this website and the entirety of the American “left”? That just further proves my point of how pathetic they are.
Bernie Sanders, nearly every single “leftist” media organization and all of the most popular “leftist” entertainers is not “online brainrot” it’s the entire “left”. There is no offline non-brain rotten western left, it doesn’t exist. There’s bernard staffers and hangers-on and there’s online radlibs. That’s it. Opportunists and their audience, made perfectly for each other.
And before you go there, yes actual principled commie groups do technically exist, I’m being a bit loose with “doesn’t exist” to just mean “is insignificantly small”. I’m in one of them. All of the organizations and streamers and politicians I mentioned are like 100 times more popular and bigger than our organization. We might as well not even exist, we’re 0.00001% of the country.
I’m really regretting having said anything in this thread
Next time if he’s so boring to you, just don’t say anything at all? Would be better than coming in and saying “I don’t care about Nazis being openly accepted among all of our supposed ‘allies’ actually, it’s boring”.