• Hoimo@ani.social
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    21 days ago

    I love all trans people and all other people, unless they give me a reason not to love them. But most of all I love shots YOU!

  • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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    21 days ago

    No, no, as a fellow velocirap er… human being, I tell you it’s ok to say you hate all men. Because it’s extremely easy to prove you are not an absolute POS and therefore be an exception to the rule. You just need to be a decent human being and poof you’re an exception to the rule of “I hate all men”. Because that rule is referred to the majority of assholes that roam around, not to every single man without exception.

    • TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works
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      21 days ago

      Hating people because of their gender is bigotry, and if you use “all” to mean “most” that is a misuse of language

            • Kindness is Punk@lemmy.ca
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              21 days ago

              They’re right, I understand how women are victimized. That’s not an excuse to internalize bigotry and it is an issue you should work on.

              This is not defending the men who do victimize women of which there are many, it’s a stance against generalizations and the inbuilt prejudices they normalize in culture.

              I know this argument all too well because I’ve heard it used too many times by racists.

              • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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                21 days ago

                Look, I don’t have to work on making men become decent towards women.

                As I’ve explained, it’s extremely easy to become an exception to the present rule yet you are getting concerned about me hating the whole male collective because I said that all you need to do to not be hated is simply being a decent human being.

                Do you think it’s hard for the men collective to achieve the goal of being decent human beings and that’s why you are so concerned?

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                  You don’t have to work on that, but you do have to work on yourself. What you said is an example of internalised misogyny, and it is part of the problem.

                  I’m very sorry for the actions of some men, but neither of us can control that. What we can control is how we react to it.

                  It’s not the fact that you’re saying men should change; it’s the fact that you’re generalising.

                  By saying that all men are evil, you’re letting individual men off the hook, and you’re perpetuating the very problem you claim to be fighting against.

                  No one should have to prove they’re an exception to a hateful statement.

                  I understand and validate your feelings, which is why I care so much about telling you about the misogyny you’ve internalised.

                  I don’t see you as a prejudiced bitch; I see someone who has been victimised and hurt, and who has turned that hurt into something that will harm you and other women.

                  I understand it’s exhausting, and I don’t mean to attack. I just want to see you heal. Don’t you think this has taken enough from you?

    • Plenty of men will quickly agree that men suck. If they they don’t, they’re either extremely naivë, from a different culture where men being awful isn’t the norm, or they’re not an exception for good reason.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzBanned from community
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        As a man, I’ve been mistreated by men, both while I was growing up and in adulthood. Nobody ever cared about my problems or trauma because when they look at me all they see is “Man = Privileged” and they don’t care about my problems, emotions, or well-being. Clearly they’ve never read bell hooks if they think that makes them a feminist.

        It’s always the oppression olympics: “No, you can’t have any problems or trauma, because what about all these other people whose problems and trauma are worse.” This isn’t a fucking competition, dude. Patriarchy hurts men too, and it doesn’t justify misandry.

        “Stick it to the man” means “the authorities and arbitrary structures of power,” not “some random dude down the street because he has no friends and that makes him an easy target.”

  • dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    20 days ago

    How the fuck are we regressing SO far and SO far?!?! Even having to say ‘trans rights are human rights’ EVER feels like trying to prevent a subset of the population from going on a gleeful murder spree or the supreme court allowing the other nazis to make special armbands for our trans brothers and sisters.

    What the ever loving fuck.

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    If somebody actually hates all trans people, then I suggest it’s not worthwhile for decent humans to strain their sanity to analyze whether bigots’ patterns of hate and logic are internally consistent.

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      Drop down consequences on that person, shunning, unemployment, leave them to rot. Effectively exterminating biggots.

      It sounds cruel, but arguing with them, rarely changes them. They need to be suppressed or neutralized.