• Kindness is Punk@lemmy.ca
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        18 days ago

        They’re right, I understand how women are victimized. That’s not an excuse to internalize bigotry and it is an issue you should work on.

        This is not defending the men who do victimize women of which there are many, it’s a stance against generalizations and the inbuilt prejudices they normalize in culture.

        I know this argument all too well because I’ve heard it used too many times by racists.

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          18 days ago

          Look, I don’t have to work on making men become decent towards women.

          As I’ve explained, it’s extremely easy to become an exception to the present rule yet you are getting concerned about me hating the whole male collective because I said that all you need to do to not be hated is simply being a decent human being.

          Do you think it’s hard for the men collective to achieve the goal of being decent human beings and that’s why you are so concerned?

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            18 days ago

            You don’t have to work on that, but you do have to work on yourself. What you said is an example of internalised misogyny, and it is part of the problem.

            I’m very sorry for the actions of some men, but neither of us can control that. What we can control is how we react to it.

            It’s not the fact that you’re saying men should change; it’s the fact that you’re generalising.

            By saying that all men are evil, you’re letting individual men off the hook, and you’re perpetuating the very problem you claim to be fighting against.

            No one should have to prove they’re an exception to a hateful statement.

            I understand and validate your feelings, which is why I care so much about telling you about the misogyny you’ve internalised.

            I don’t see you as a prejudiced bitch; I see someone who has been victimised and hurt, and who has turned that hurt into something that will harm you and other women.

            I understand it’s exhausting, and I don’t mean to attack. I just want to see you heal. Don’t you think this has taken enough from you?

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              18 days ago

              No one should have to prove they’re an exception to a hateful statement.

              If you think that being a decent person towards other humans is “proving yourself” then I don’t know what to tell you. That’s the bare minimum in human convivence, yet we are discussing about my mysoginy because I dared to say that if a man is a POS towards women, he’s going to be hated.