• Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    when the other one clearly was, I would say americans are a bit slow on the uptake.
    Suckers

    • Truthtwopower@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      Funny thing its, this administration aren’t the ones leading though. Its the heritage project and the creaters of project 2025.

      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        I mean, i got little legs and probably 400 fans following my music right now (and I just finished a season, glad to be done with this group tho). Some of us know the limits of our reach

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    2 months ago

    Only a quarter? Or are they parsing their survey to split the “staged” vote from those who think it was “allowed to happen”.

    You don’t need to hire a gunman. You just need to make an idiot think he has a clear shot. Then let him hit a brick wall.

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      2 months ago

      If you just catch it from the TT/IG people talking, the conspiracy has some pretty decent legs. Strange responses, no responses. smiles, wasn’t supposed to be there, people kept eating, guests stayed at the table, even though this isn’t the first time… normally there is pretty strong protocol for the president to enter public they bring their own security and their security isn’t run by idiots.

      Truthfully, none of the suspect behavior really shows much more than people not knowing what was going on or the fact that he’s been surrounding himself with people who are not as professional security-wise as previous heads.

      Do I think there’s no chance it was staged? No. Are there suspect actions by people in the room? Yeah, but nothing that couldn’t just be explained by high levels of noise in the room and relatively decent sound deadening.

      It could have been staged; the previous thing could have been staged. He’s angering a lot of people, it’s not like it should be entirely unexpected.

      The US has a long history of attempts.

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    2 months ago

    Makes sense for people to think that (boy who cried wolf and all that), but it’s really not all too questionable that a leader with such a low approval rating on top of being in one of the most pro-gun nations in the world is subject to relatively frequent assassination attempts. I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t happened more.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      I think there is way more to it than just that. For example, the strangely lax security, and bizarre comments by insiders beforehand about how “shots will be fired” etc.

      Not saying I believe it, but it’s not just boy who cried wolf.

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        2 months ago

        I think it’s more appropriate to apply Occam’s & Hanlon’s razor logic here tbh. I doubt these simpletons would go to such lengths to paint themselves as victims of violence in this case, it’s highly probable that they’re just too stupid to take the proper precautions as opposed to the whole thing being a malicious attempt at perception manipulation. Plus they oh so love their headline-speak as we all know.

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          If you still believe Hanlon’s Razor isn’t complete bullshit after the last 18 months or so, I honestly don’t know what to tell you.

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              2 months ago

              Yeah that’s not what I said or implied.

              If you’ve been paying attention to the US for the past 18 months, and you still think that malice isn’t involved, then I have a ballroom to sell you

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      I’m honestly surprised it hasn’t happened more.

      You have been banned from /r/politics.

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      2 months ago

      One of the most pro-gun nations? What other nation takes guns for such a existential part of their identity?

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        Probably every Middle East nation, on account of fearing and hating their neighbors. If I was a Palestinian, I wouldn’t want to go quietly into the earth.

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    2 months ago

    Staged? Nah. Allowed to happen? Most definitely.

    Famously, after a Whitehouse correspondence dinner, Obama left the stage, and went straight into a secured situation room to see the raid on Bin Laden’s compound, which in my mind says “there is a secure and spacious building for the President to reside in and perform the necessary administrative and diplomatic duties of the office.” Oh yeah, it’s the Whitehouse! Why the fuck was the WHCD bring held at some random-ass hotel ballroom?

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      2 months ago

      I mean they have that woman pretending to be a door dash employee, so they’re in the staging business. All I’m saying is I’d be far from surprised if it were staged.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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      I can tell from the, uh, fuck. People don’t have pixels. I’ll come in again.

      I can tell from the hog drippings around the target. Way too many hog drippings for a real assassination attempt.

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      2 months ago

      because it’s important to know when you’re being misled and manipulated. it’s also important to know who is doing the manipulation and who is supporting it.

      it’s not always the folks you believe.