• insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe
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      1 month ago

      Does endorsement by their socialist and green parties mean nothing?

      If they had elected Orban again, would that make positive change more likely?

      If Magyar was lying and goes further right, is revolution somehow less possible than it has been? Especially if Orban loyalists are gone/not-on-his-side and Orban policies are actually undone in such a way that future elections are more fair? (though that actually assumes their left parties can actually gain traction)

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    1 month ago

    While I agree with the sentiment, I’m not sure if the current democrats have enough of a spine to oust the sitting president, even if they get enough of a majority…

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      1 month ago

      even if they get enough of a majority…

      And there’s the rub.

      The House is one thing, the Senate another. Only 1/3 of the current Senate seats go up for election, and the majority of seats up for vote that are currently held by Republicans are from very safe Republican stronghold states. I don’t think there’s a chance that the Dems get control of the Senate, even if they gain a couple seats.

      As for the “problem” Dems, Fetterman isn’t up for reelection. Schumer isn’t up for reelection. Kaine isn’t up for reelection. Shaheen and Durbin are at least retiring, but none of the other sellouts are on the ballot until 2028 at the earliest.

      Best we can hope for is that the House flips to a Democratic majority (a supermajority is still beyond question) and that turns the next two years into an ineffectual lame duck Congress. But it’s not like that’d be all that different from the situation right now anyways, because Trump has demonstrated he doesn’t give a shit about Congress and will just issue illegal executive orders for everything he wants to do, while the courts twiddle their thumbs and maybe question the legality of his actions 10 years from now.

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      1 month ago

      You think if the most unbelievable thing happened and a Democrat won every election to somehow hold both a majority in the House and 60 votes in the Senate, they wouldn’t toss him out?

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        1 month ago

        Conviction in an impeachment trial needs 67 votes. They currently hold 45 seats. In order to get to 67, they’d need a clean sweep of all Senate races.

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          1 month ago

          Even then, what’s the over under on a convent count of turncoats that vote against because we “just need to come together and heal the nation.”

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            Tbf at this point it’s well earned. The Republicans are still not switching positions about Epstein, the 25th and other things and their voters sure as hell did, so one can only conclude the more cynical position, that is, there is so much corruption it takes more than an elite sex abuse ring for the Republicans to finally do something.

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        Well, there’s a pattern with this kind of thing. File a bill on a popular issue when they’re in the minority, but just flat out ignore the issue when they’ve taken the majority.

        Not feeling arsed enough to dig up examples, probably because I’ve given in to cynicism on the matter. But I doubt it would take much digging for anybody curious…

        Edit: from my feed today-

        Oh, wait, that doesn’t happen, so I’m the one imaging things. 🙄